Artists who are "In the Closet" ???

[DuhDuh539]

what are some of your picks? (you can include actors if you want also)

mine are:

Clay Aiken
Da Brat
Vin Diesel
Robbie Williams
Wanda Sykes
Eve
4 outta the 5 members of N*sync

and thats all i could think of now

[TJL]

Don't ask, don't tell...

;)

[memarkw]

Eminem
Michael Jackson
Winona

[Dean Winchester]

why do people feel so compelled to "out" people?

if they aren't willing to say they're gay, why try outting them? Coming out is something you do on your own time, it's not cool to ask "are you gay?" to someone who is still struggling with the idea and are not ready to say they are. Hell, look how old Rosie and Ellen were when they came out, they were both in their very late 30's.

[Jrnygrl]

why do people feel so compelled to "out" people?

if they aren't willing to say they're gay, why try outting them? Coming out is something you do on your own time, it's not cool to ask "are you gay?" to someone who is still struggling with the idea and are not ready to say they are. Hell, look how old Rosie and Ellen were when they came out, they were both in their very late 30's.


I have to agree with you. What purpose does this serve??? When Melissa Ethridge come out, I was like so what, I like your music I don't care what your personal life is about, just play some kick ass guitar.

If you listen to Janis Ian's song "At Seventeen" it was written by someone who was confused about their sexuality, but it speaks to all of us who have felt awkward in our lifes as teens.

[Superstar]

why do people feel so compelled to "out" people?

if they aren't willing to say they're gay, why try outting them? Coming out is something you do on your own time, it's not cool to ask "are you gay?" to someone who is still struggling with the idea and are not ready to say they are. Hell, look how old Rosie and Ellen were when they came out, they were both in their very late 30's.
I agree

[MissZero]

why do people feel so compelled to "out" people?

if they aren't willing to say they're gay, why try outting them? Coming out is something you do on your own time, it's not cool to ask "are you gay?" to someone who is still struggling with the idea and are not ready to say they are. Hell, look how old Rosie and Ellen were when they came out, they were both in their very late 30's.

so were not allowed to talk about it cause not everybody is Rosie or Ellen????

[DuhDuh539]

omg, i cant believe how i forgot about michael jackson...and so what people? its just people who you THINK is in the closet its not 100% accurate in the 1st place...chill out.

[DuhDuh539]

I have to agree with you. What purpose does this serve??? When Melissa Ethridge come out, I was like so what, I like your music I don't care what your personal life is about, just play some kick ass guitar.

If you listen to Janis Ian's song "At Seventeen" it was written by someone who was confused about their sexuality, but it speaks to all of us who have felt awkward in our lifes as teens.

it doesnt HAVE to serve a purpose...not everything HAS to serve a purpose for god sakes...and i agree with you about how it doesnt effect your talent even if you did come out but THIS POST ISNT ABOUT TALENT ITS ABOUT WHAT STARS U THINK IS IN THE CLOSET.

[Jrnygrl]

it doesnt HAVE to serve a purpose...not everything HAS to serve a purpose for god sakes...and i agree with you about how it doesnt effect your talent even if you did come out but THIS POST ISNT ABOUT TALENT ITS ABOUT WHAT STARS U THINK IS IN THE CLOSET.

Okay, I get the message. :eyes2:

[TJL]

I keep forgetting, is Elton John in or out now?

;)

[Dean Winchester]

so were not allowed to talk about it cause not everybody is Rosie or Ellen????

it's kinda rude to be talking about someones sexual orientation when that person isn't ready to deal with what they are. I used to HATE it when people would call me "***" at school, and it was a good 2+ years before I even admitted to myself that I was one. It was NONE OF THEIR GODDAMN BUSINESS to decide if they thought I was a "***" or if they thought I was straight because at that time, I was really confused and questioning myself, and other people trying to out me when I hadn't even outted myself to myself was wrong.

[DuhDuh539]

it's kinda rude to be talking about someones sexual orientation when that person isn't ready to deal with what they are. I used to HATE it when people would call me "***" at school, and it was a good 2+ years before I even admitted to myself that I was one. It was NONE OF THEIR GODDAMN BUSINESS to decide if they thought I was a "***" or if they thought I was straight because at that time, I was really confused and questioning myself, and other people trying to out me when I hadn't even outted myself to myself was wrong.

mmhmm...im glad you've just came to grips about your life but the differences is THEY ARE CELEBRITIES...they deal with wayy worse in freakin tabloids...this isnt HIGH SCHOOL kids calling someone a "***" its CELEBS who you think are in the closet so if you wanna make yourself heard about some high school trauma then post in a topic that HAS to do with it, but this relates to my topic HOW? i mean, if you make ANY celebrity jokes, is it not the same? and this topic was not MEANT to offend ANYONE but just DEAL WITH IT. and i guess when i say it than it makes me "rude" or "blunt" but when someone like Jay Leno or Conan says it than it's "funny"? psh...

[Pus$y Galore]

I keep forgetting, is Elton John in or out now?

;)


Still out - saw him with David just recently.


One though that I would like confirmation on, and don't know if anybody could confirm it, but is Herb Alpert gay? My brother for years has claimed he is, but I've never heard anything about it really other than from my bro, and I think he's just trying to bug me (cuz he knows I used to have a huge crush on him). I know he (was, at least) married, not that that means anything, but if anyone could confirm or deny for sure I'd be interested.

[Pus$y Galore]

it's kinda rude to be talking about someones sexual orientation when that person isn't ready to deal with what they are. I used to HATE it when people would call me "***" at school, and it was a good 2+ years before I even admitted to myself that I was one. It was NONE OF THEIR GODDAMN BUSINESS to decide if they thought I was a "***" or if they thought I was straight because at that time, I was really confused and questioning myself, and other people trying to out me when I hadn't even outted myself to myself was wrong.


I understand what you mean. It must have been hell for you going through that. Its tough enough trying to survive high school at best, and to have that added pressure and stignma on you must have been incredible. My best friend (from grade 4) went through that. Even as early as grade four, people were asking if he was a "girl". I even sat with other friends in the cafeteria in grade 10 listening to a couple of them make smart remarks about him as he passed by. I just couldn't take it any longer and started a huge fight with the ringleader about how it didn't matter one way or another and was none of their GD business . He had never done a thing to her. Oddly enough, it just happened that he finally came out later that year just as his mother was dying of cancer (his father was long out of the picture). Nobody really even made mention of it other than their suspicions were confirmed. (And as you say, it really IS nobody's business). I was really impressed that when his mom died, EVERYBODY from school came to the funeral home or his house to pay their respects. It was almost like the bubble of stress had been burst and they were fine with it. I was always happy that he got to finish the school year on an up note socially at least and that people DID accept him for the great guy he was and not "what" he was.

[memarkw]

I have to agree with you. What purpose does this serve??? When Melissa Ethridge come out, I was like so what, I like your music I don't care what your personal life is about, just play some kick ass guitar.

If you listen to Janis Ian's song "At Seventeen" it was written by someone who was confused about their sexuality, but it speaks to all of us who have felt awkward in our lifes as teens.

It's a great day for gay people when gay celebrities come out. When Melissa Etheridge came out, you may have been like "So what" but there are many many people who were like "Thank you."

[memarkw]

mmhmm...im glad you've just came to grips about your life but the differences is THEY ARE CELEBRITIES...they deal with wayy worse in freakin tabloids...this isnt HIGH SCHOOL kids calling someone a "***" its CELEBS who you think are in the closet so if you wanna make yourself heard about some high school trauma then post in a topic that HAS to do with it, but this relates to my topic HOW? i mean, if you make ANY celebrity jokes, is it not the same? and this topic was not MEANT to offend ANYONE but just DEAL WITH IT. and i guess when i say it than it makes me "rude" or "blunt" but when someone like Jay Leno or Conan says it than it's "funny"? psh...


A high school student who is belittled and mocked everyday is a lot more likely to kill himself than a celebrity who is outed. It's way worse for kids living the real life than for celebrities.

[Jrnygrl]

It's a great day for gay people when gay celebrities come out. When Melissa Etheridge came out, you may have been like "So what" but there are many many people who were like "Thank you."


I didn't mean this in a bad way, I just meant that I don't care if you come from Mars if your talented that shouldn't matter what your personal life is about.

I think I will just leave my comments from now on to just topics about Journey I don't think I can get into trouble talking about them, I think.

Like I said I get the message I won't comment about anything in this thread.

[Dean Winchester]

It's a great day for gay people when gay celebrities come out. When Melissa Etheridge came out, you may have been like "So what" but there are many many people who were like "Thank you."

well, in Jrnygirl's defense, I think she meant to say that when she found out that Melissa was gay, it wasn't an issue to her.... whereas a lot of people would decide "what a dyke" or "I hope she rots in hell for her lifestyle". Jrny was saying that it's no big deal to her if a singer she likes is straight, gay, bi, ambidexturous, etc.. But to a lot of people it does matter unfortunately.

[Dean Winchester]

A high school student who is belittled and mocked everyday is a lot more likely to kill himself than a celebrity who is outed. It's way worse for kids living the real life than for celebrities.

very true, if someone calls Elton John or Boy George a ******, or calls Melissa Etheridge a dyke, I don't think it matters that much to them, because 1. they are still rich, and 2. they know that while a lot of people disapprove of them, they have just as many who are fans and will support them. You can't necessarily say that about the 16 year old who lives 2 miles away who goes to a private school and is from a strict religious upbringing that forbids homosexuality.

[Belair]

Ricky Martin

[SBTB Geek]

Eh, I don't care about all this PC stuff--

-Michael Jackson
-Lance Bass
-Clay Aiken
-Jillian Barberie
-Steve-O and Chris Pontius
-Ricky Martin
-Da Brat

[Dean Winchester]

Eh, I don't care about all this PC stuff--

no offense, but what is your big hangup with gays? I've seen you in the past before saying you refuse to listen to Cher and ABBA because "people might question my masculinity and think I'm gay", yet you have stated many times that you like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, two singers whose male fanbase that actually like the music (as opposed to just thinking they're hot) is predominantly gay as well, what's the difference, why would liking Cher's music emasculate you but liking Britney's music make you butch?

[memarkw]

I didn't mean this in a bad way, I just meant that I don't care if you come from Mars if your talented that shouldn't matter what your personal life is about.

I think I will just leave my comments from now on to just topics about Journey I don't think I can get into trouble talking about them, I think.

Like I said I get the message I won't comment about anything in this thread.

I didn't mean my reply to sound like you had offended me. I just wanted to point out that gay teens have a real hard time and it does help them to see a high profile celebrity come out.

Please don't stop participating in discussions because of my reply =)

[DuhDuh539]

A high school student who is belittled and mocked everyday is a lot more likely to kill himself than a celebrity who is outed. It's way worse for kids living the real life than for celebrities.

okay this topic is called "STARS WHO ARE IN THE CLOSET" not "TEENS WHO COMMIT SUICIDE" yet again, dont try to be sooo DRAMATIC and convert this to a post about TEEN SUICIDE when it's about CELEBS

and yes people, even if they WERE gay/lesbian, it 100% does NOT effect their talent but you do not HAAAAAVE to make it known...its not about talent its just simple...which stars do you think are secretly gay?? THATS IT. if you do not think any stars are or if you think its wrong than DONT POST....yes its AMERICA but not ALL of your opinions about it being wrong and it not effecting their talent HAAAAVE to be heard.

[Janice]

Johnny Mathis and Barry Manilow. Not sure if they're in the closet, though not openly gay as far as I know.

[USTVFanFromUK]

no offense, but what is your big hangup with gays? I've seen you in the past before saying you refuse to listen to Cher and ABBA because "people might question my masculinity and think I'm gay", yet you have stated many times that you like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, two singers whose male fanbase that actually like the music (as opposed to just thinking they're hot) is predominantly gay as well, what's the difference, why would liking Cher's music emasculate you but liking Britney's music make you butch?


I agree, music no matter what specific audience it might be stereotypically geared to, is a universal thing. Hell, I'm a straight male and I'm proud to admit I own a few Barbra Streisand albums and consider her a great vocalist/artist. It's pure ignorance and stupidity to automatically decide you hate a specific artist or genre of music because it's stereotypically geared towards a 'gay audience'.

[SBTB Geek]

no offense, but what is your big hangup with gays? I've seen you in the past before saying you refuse to listen to Cher and ABBA because "people might question my masculinity and think I'm gay", yet you have stated many times that you like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, two singers whose male fanbase that actually like the music (as opposed to just thinking they're hot) is predominantly gay as well, what's the difference, why would liking Cher's music emasculate you but liking Britney's music make you butch?

I never said I had a problem with gay people. :) Abba and Cher simply suck, plain and simple.

[eltonfan80]

why do people feel so compelled to "out" people?

if they aren't willing to say they're gay, why try outting them? Coming out is something you do on your own time, it's not cool to ask "are you gay?" to someone who is still struggling with the idea and are not ready to say they are. Hell, look how old Rosie and Ellen were when they came out, they were both in their very late 30's.
i agree with you all the way