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G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 07:43 PM
My parents are in New York right now (actually on the plane coming home), and they won't be back til about 2 hours from now.
Anyway, someone else is with us for tonight, and she's 18.

And tonight we went to Pizza Hut. She told me if I didn't eat anything I'd have to go to bed at 8. I ate some salad, but then when the pizza came, she wanted me to eat a piece! I didn't, so now I have to go to bed early :rolleyes:
WTF......does she not know how fattening pizza is and how much freaking grease is on it???

I wish I could call my parents about it....... :mad:

The Modfather
03-10-2005, 07:51 PM
Just eat a friggin' slice of pizza, it won't kill you.

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 07:52 PM
Just eat a friggin' slice of pizza, it won't kill you.

No, it's fattening. Besides I ate too much dinner last night.

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 07:53 PM
Ugh, I gotta go to bed in 8 minutes :( :rolleyes:

MaydayMalonesGirl
03-10-2005, 07:57 PM
EAT THE PIZZA *passes out*

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 07:58 PM
I always make these weird threads whenever I'm this mad or depressed *sighs*

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-10-2005, 07:59 PM
No, it's fattening. Besides I ate too much dinner last night.
Stop acting like that. You're not going to get fat from eating one ****ing piece of pizza.

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 08:00 PM
It's 8:00....gotta go to bed.

MaydayMalonesGirl
03-10-2005, 08:00 PM
No, it's fattening. Besides I ate too much dinner last night.

Did you read anything from the other thread? You are completely off-base about this entire topic.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
03-10-2005, 08:05 PM
You have got to be kidding me.

How old are you?

Georgia's on my Mind
03-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Grow up, get a career, and move out.

Michael [hXc]
03-10-2005, 08:13 PM
You have got to be kidding me.

How old are you?

she's 13

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 08:17 PM
Did you read anything from the other thread? You are completely off-base about this entire topic.

Yeah, I read every post in the other thread.

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 08:17 PM
You have got to be kidding me.

How old are you?

13....why does it matter?

AllIWantIsYourClutch
03-10-2005, 08:18 PM
Yeah, I read every post in the other thread.
Go back to bed.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
03-10-2005, 08:18 PM
13....why does it matter?
I don't know. I just don't get it.

Michael [hXc]
03-10-2005, 08:19 PM
i don't think it matters how old she is, i know some 20 year olds who are much less mature.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-10-2005, 08:25 PM
I told my mom to order pizza because this thread got me in the mood for it. I shall eat 3 or more slices. Good day.

Michael [hXc]
03-10-2005, 08:28 PM
this thread is making me hungry.

Georgia's on my Mind
03-10-2005, 08:30 PM
13....why does it matter?
You SHOULD be in bed at 8:00.

x3 Taylor x3
03-10-2005, 08:36 PM
Wow.

Stormtracker TF
03-10-2005, 08:40 PM
I told my mom to order pizza because this thread got me in the mood for it. I shall eat 3 or more slices. Good day.
Heck, yesterday we had Pizza and I had 5 pieces. :thumbsup:

Who cares if it makes me fat one day, if someone tries to call me names I'll CRUSH them.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-10-2005, 08:45 PM
Heck, yesterday we had Pizza and I had 5 pieces. :thumbsup:

Who cares if it makes me fat one day, if someone tries to call me names I'll CRUSH them.
I think it'd rediculous to waste your life worrying about things like that.

Czas na Zywiec
03-10-2005, 08:49 PM
I always make these weird threads whenever I'm this mad or depressed *sighs*

www.livejournal.com (http://www.livejournal.com)

Try that.

G-Force Glockstar
03-10-2005, 08:55 PM
www.livejournal.com (http://www.livejournal.com)

Try that.

Nah, I already have a journal that I write in every night. There's no need to have a live one

TheHappyBurgerMeister
03-10-2005, 09:06 PM
ONE piece of pizza is not going to make you fat. It's very unhealthy to not eat. If you had like 10 pieces that would be a different story.

MsOrange
03-10-2005, 09:27 PM
a little attention hungry, are we?

attention is fattening. go away.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
03-10-2005, 10:18 PM
a little attention hungry, are we?

attention is fattening. go away.
:lol:

Sara Micelli
03-10-2005, 10:43 PM
What was the point of this thread?

MandieR1980
03-10-2005, 11:33 PM
13....why does it matter?

it shows :rolleyes:

dawsongirl
03-11-2005, 12:48 AM
My parents are in New York right now (actually on the plane coming home), and they won't be back til about 2 hours from now.
Anyway, someone else is with us for tonight, and she's 18.

And tonight we went to Pizza Hut. She told me if I didn't eat anything I'd have to go to bed at 8. I ate some salad, but then when the pizza came, she wanted me to eat a piece! I didn't, so now I have to go to bed early :rolleyes:
WTF......does she not know how fattening pizza is and how much freaking grease is on it???

I wish I could call my parents about it....... :mad:

pish...pizza is loaded with calcium, all the antioxidents you get from tomatos, vegetables (if you get them of course), all the good stuff that comes from the grain group...PIZZA IS GOOD FOR YOU.

Belair
03-11-2005, 12:53 AM
I wish I had your will power.I cant stop at just one piece of pizza,let alone having none at all.

Number 9 Dream
03-11-2005, 12:59 AM
Hey hon,

I hope this advice helps a bit-- don't WORRY so much about food. Seriously. Like I said in the other thread, everything in moderation is COOL. Have a slice or two- enjoy yourself. Carpe Diem.

I'm only telling you this because I was in the same situation not too long ago(I am 22, by the way). I've always had issues with my body(and I still do but not to the extent I used to be) but now I've come to realize that you can't live your life for other people. Stop worrying if people think you're fat because you eat ONE slice of pizza.

Mmm pizza

Stormtracker TF
03-11-2005, 03:20 AM
pish...pizza is loaded with calcium, all the antioxidents you get from tomatos, vegetables (if you get them of course), all the good stuff that comes from the grain group...PIZZA IS GOOD FOR YOU.
Yes ma'am.

And it is quite delicious as well...I'm hungry for a big slice Pizza right now.

Cherry Lips
03-11-2005, 03:44 AM
She has no right to force you to eat something you don't want to, and then punish you if you don't.

Superstar
03-11-2005, 06:10 AM
Eat the damn pizza, a few slices won't make a difference.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 08:00 AM
She has no right to force you to eat something you don't want to, and then punish you if you don't.

Finally! Someone that's on my side.

It made no sense for her to punish me for not eating just a slice of pizza! Maybe I should have just aten it, but she still should've not done it.

dawsongirl
03-11-2005, 03:02 PM
Do you really intend to take any of our advice, or are you just looking for people to agree with you?

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 03:05 PM
I can't stand it when people ask for advice, and then don't bother to follow through on it at all. Also you should have ate the damn pizza! Be happy that you can still eat foods like that. I'm almost 20, and I can't eat foods like that because of my Diabetes. People take what they eat for granted. I would kill to be able to eat 2 slices and not have to worry about it.

Michael [hXc]
03-11-2005, 03:24 PM
I can't stand it when people ask for advice, and then don't bother to follow through on it at all. Also you should have ate the damn pizza! Be happy that you can still eat foods like that. I'm almost 20, and I can't eat foods like that because of my Diabetes. People take what they eat for granted. I would kill to be able to eat 2 slices and not have to worry about it.

you can't eat pizza? sorry :(

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-11-2005, 03:30 PM
She has no right to force you to eat something you don't want to, and then punish you if you don't.
I'd make her eat it, too. She's probably sick of her acting like that.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-11-2005, 03:30 PM
I can't stand it when people ask for advice, and then don't bother to follow through on it at all. Also you should have ate the damn pizza! Be happy that you can still eat foods like that. I'm almost 20, and I can't eat foods like that because of my Diabetes. People take what they eat for granted. I would kill to be able to eat 2 slices and not have to worry about it.
sorry about that :(

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 03:39 PM
you can't eat pizza? sorry :(
I can, but I'm very restricted. One piece doesn't seem to do much to my sugar levels, but two pieces send it up higher. Not scary high, but higher then it should be.

dawsongirl
03-11-2005, 03:41 PM
I can, but I'm very restricted. One piece doesn't seem to do much to my sugar levels, but two pieces send it up higher. Not scary high, but higher then it should be.
Wow...I would never have thought pizza would do anything to a sugar level. Does it matter what toppings are on it?

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 03:46 PM
Wow...I would never have thought pizza would do anything to a sugar level. Does it matter what toppings are on it?

Nope it doesn't really matter. The problem has to do with the amount of fat and carbs. I'm only supposed to have 45 grams of carbs and 5 grams of fat, per meal. A lot of people assume that Diabetes only involves eating sugar. What they are finding out is that carbs and fat both turn into sugar.

dawsongirl
03-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Nope it doesn't really matter. The problem has to do with the amount of fat and carbs. I'm only supposed to have 45 grams of carbs and 5 grams of fat, per meal. A lot of people assume that Diabetes only involves eating sugar. What they are finding out is that carbs and fat both turn into sugar.
Hmm...didn't know about that. That restricts even more of what you can eat. :(

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 04:47 PM
Hmm...didn't know about that. That restricts even more of what you can eat. :(

It does restrict a lot of things. I mean I could make the choice that instead I'll eat 2 or 3 pieces and not take care of my Diabetes. I'm still pretty young, and I don't want to die any earlier. So now I have to look at things like pizza, and say that it's not worth my health.

BlueEyes
03-11-2005, 05:01 PM
LangLang, she's just trying to look out for you. :rolleyes: I've struggled with my body image too, and I've learned it's best to eat. And actually, you'll gain weight if you DON'T eat. Be mature about this, and listen to everyone on here. They're right -- pizza has nutrients that you need, as long as you don't eat too much (and by too much I mean half the pizza...not 1-3 slices).

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 05:09 PM
LangLang, she's just trying to look out for you. :rolleyes: I've struggled with my body image too, and I've learned it's best to eat. And actually, you'll gain weight if you DON'T eat. Be mature about this, and listen to everyone on here. They're right -- pizza has nutrients that you need, as long as you don't eat too much (and by too much I mean half the pizza...not 1-3 slices).

Alright, maybe pizza is sorda good for you.

But how can you gain weight from not eating? Doesn't your body eventually eat your muscles and fat?
But I know in some ways it's true, like if you don't eat breakfast, you muscles will turn into fat......and when you starve yourself for a while, and then eat, your body does something that makes you gain weight.

So I guess small meals it is.

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 05:11 PM
I read the previous thread and you are not at all fat for your age. Didn't anybody ever bother to tell you not to pay attention to your siblings? Siblings say things like that to get to you, apparently it's working. You don't want to go down the road of eating disorders.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 05:13 PM
I read the previous thread and you are not at all fat for your age. Didn't anybody ever bother to tell you not to pay attention to your siblings? Siblings say things like that to get to you, apparently it's working. You don't want to go down the road of eating disorders.

But I'm weird, I actually listen to them so they won't be mean anymore about it. But why should I bother.....they say they'll make fun of me when I'm skinny too.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 05:14 PM
I read the previous thread and you are not at all fat for your age.

Most of my friends that are my age are only in their 80's and 90's in weight.

Sara Micelli
03-11-2005, 05:16 PM
Most of my friends that are my age are only in their 80's and 90's in weight.

The last time I was in the 80s or 90s was when I was 8 years old. Don't worry about your weight so much.

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 05:18 PM
Don't ever compare yourself to your friends. It's not worth the time. My sister is 14 and weighs the same as you. She's as thin as a freaking rail. You are way too young to start worrying about diets. The best way to stay healthy is to exercise.

The Modfather
03-11-2005, 05:23 PM
a little attention hungry, are we?

attention is fattening. go away.
:lol:

The Modfather
03-11-2005, 05:24 PM
And... why do you always make these threads and then never follow any advice given?

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 05:27 PM
And... why do you always make these threads and then never follow any advice given?

idk, sorry

Janet McFarland
03-11-2005, 05:34 PM
Most of my friends that are my age are only in their 80's and 90's in weight.

Look, Mackenzie, one slice of pizza isn't going to hurt you. You should be thankful that you have food while people around the world are dying of starvation. And be happy that you have the size you have. I'm only 85 pounds and I'm 13 and yeah it's not that healthy. I would kill to weigh in my 100s. Don't take everything for granted.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 05:38 PM
Look, Mackenzie, one slice of pizza isn't going to hurt you. You should be thankful that you have food while people around the world are dying of starvation. And be happy that you have the size you have. I'm only 85 pounds and I'm 13 and yeah it's not that healthy. I would kill to weigh in my 100s. Don't take everything for granted.

I'm obsessed with starving skinny kids because I wanna look like them. But of course, I feel bad for them.
And dang, you must be really thin like my friend Mary who's 13 and only 86 pounds.
And the reason that made me wanna lose weight at first was because my sisters kept calling me fat and wanting me to lose weight.....they also keep telling me I should only weight like 90 pounds.

And if I'm annoying anyone here, I'm sorry.

Janet McFarland
03-11-2005, 05:40 PM
I'm obsessed with starving skinny kids because I wanna look like them. But of course, I feel bad for them.
And dang, you must be really thin like my friend Mary who's 13 and only 86 pounds.
And the reason that made me wanna lose weight at first was because my sisters kept calling me fat and wanting me to lose weight.....they also keep telling me I should only weight like 90 pounds.

And if I'm annoying anyone here, I'm sorry.

Trust me, no you don't. Just stop because you don't realize what you're saying. And why are you listening to your sisters? You're 13 right? I highly doubt 90 lbs. is the average weight. Please just be happy the way you are.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
03-11-2005, 05:41 PM
I'm obsessed with starving skinny kids because I wanna look like them. Okay well...go catch the first plane to Ethiopia.

Seriously, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 05:44 PM
that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

I know. It is stupid.

Michael [hXc]
03-11-2005, 05:44 PM
sorry Mackenzie but i don't get it. you're obsessed with starving skinny kids because you want to look like them because your stupid sisters told you you're fat? i think you need to get your priorities in order. sorry if i sound mean but i really think you should stop listening to your sisters.

TheGreatPretender
03-11-2005, 06:34 PM
Ok I read the first page and I'm going to defend her on this one. If she wants to eat healthier eating a salad isn't going to make her "anorexic" or it's not wrong in any way. Pizza isn't regular food it is indeed junk food and possibly fattening. Like I said in the other thread TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT IN A HEALTHY WAY IS NOT BAD. Although I don't think she needs to lose any weight and she has no need to go on a diet if she wants to set a goal for herself and has enough willpower to resist temptaion by pizza and not to mention even willing to be punished for it then good for you Lana Lang. :) While eating a slice of pizza isn't going to kill you, eating a salad isn't either. It goes both ways people.

Brent88
03-11-2005, 07:17 PM
ONE piece of pizza is not going to make you fat. It's very unhealthy to not eat. If you had like 10 pieces that would be a different story.

:yeahthat

Your being ridiclous about this... :rolleyes:

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-11-2005, 07:37 PM
Most of my friends that are my age are only in their 80's and 90's in weight.
I was about 100ish when I was 13. Everyone has different weights...it doesn't necessarily mean you're fat and not healthy. You're probably still thinking like a kid...and that anything over 100 is like WHOA. But you're 13...you shouldn't be weighing too much under 100 anymore. And plus...at that age everyone's weights go out of wack because of puberty and hormones and junk. When you get older it'll even out. As for now, who cares? Your sisters are little kids. They don't know anything. Why the hell are you listening to them? Stop letting it get to you. Just eat and live your life. If you want to eat healthy, great...but don't stay away from foods forever just because they're "fattening" Give yourself a break.

And trust me...I don't think you want to look like skinny, malnourished Ethiopians. That's just as unhealthy as being obese, and people will look at you just as disgusted. I know a girl who always gets talked about behind her back because she's so disgustingly skinny. If you want to become sick, and get that as a name for yourself...go ahead, but I know for a fact you'll regret it.

TheGreatPretender
03-11-2005, 07:42 PM
I'm obsessed with starving skinny kids because I wanna look like them. But of course, I feel bad for them.
And dang, you must be really thin like my friend Mary who's 13 and only 86 pounds.
And the reason that made me wanna lose weight at first was because my sisters kept calling me fat and wanting me to lose weight.....they also keep telling me I should only weight like 90 pounds.

And if I'm annoying anyone here, I'm sorry.


Alright i guess I do see some of the points the other posters are making. First off your sisters are what 9 and 11? They are little children with little pea brains who don't know **** on a stick.And they sound like little spoiled brats so they probably will have problems of their own later on. And secondly it doesn't matter who makes fun of you or tells you that you should be something else, the only reason you should change things about yourself is YOU. Because in the end if you are doing it for someone else you will never know the real reward. Did you honestly think you were fat before your sisters started teasing you?

Pus$y Galore
03-11-2005, 08:53 PM
13....why does it matter?


Because it sounds like you're heading for an eating disorder. Take it from me (who went through it at 19 - 23) life's too short to be worrying about your weight right now - its way more important you get a balanced diet. A salad with a slice of pizza is just fine - especially at your age!!
Trust me - it took me 20 years (and a lot of wasted hours and tears) fretting about 5 lbs. Just get some fresh air and exercise like you should be and its no big deal!
Kids are eating WAY to picky these days - enjoy it while you can and live life to the fullest!!!! (Besides - truly - no guy wants a bag of bones - just ask them!)

Pus$y Galore
03-11-2005, 09:05 PM
Alright, maybe pizza is sorda good for you.

But how can you gain weight from not eating? Doesn't your body eventually eat your muscles and fat?
But I know in some ways it's true, like if you don't eat breakfast, you muscles will turn into fat......and when you starve yourself for a while, and then eat, your body does something that makes you gain weight.

So I guess small meals it is.

You gain weight because you slow your metabolism. Its an "instinct" thing in all animals. The brain thinks you are starving (say as you might in the wild), so it slows the metabolism down. You're much better to exercise (say biking riding, swimming, tennis - whatever you like) and keep your metabolic rate higher - and keep fueling it properly. If you've slowed your metabolism by not eating, then once you start eating regular meals again, it packs on the weight. That's why people who are always going on and off diets generally gain weight - and LOTS of it over the years. Best to just eat healthy and balanced and at your age you shouldn't be worrying about how many carbs - stop listening to the media so much (besides, those diets are more for older people who's metabolisms naturally are slowing down with age). You've got plenty more years before you need to start worrying about that. Also - the more you exercise, the more calories your body will (and needs) tolerate. Muscle does not turn to fat - it burns off. You lose the fat first and then (in the dangerous stages) will lose muscle - and remember - the heart is a muscle too - it gets damaged. You will also lose muscle by not working it - that is, exercising it. Just eat right and get out and exercise - dance - trampoline - run - skip - and turn off the t.v. a bit more!!

EmoJoe
03-11-2005, 09:12 PM
Just eat a friggin' slice of pizza, it won't kill you.
:yeahthat

Mackenzie, this is a little crazy. Eating a slice of pizza is not going to make you gain 50 pounds.

Czas na Zywiec
03-11-2005, 09:13 PM
And trust me...I don't think you want to look like skinny, malnourished Ethiopians. That's just as unhealthy as being obese, and people will look at you just as disgusted.

But she doesn't want to be healthy, she wants to be a malnourished starving child from the third world, only you know, without the malnourished and starving part. Basically, she has a skewed perception of healthy weight and is only doing it for superficial an stupid reasons. Because you know, her sisters know how the world works and has to listen to all their stupid, petty comments.

EmoJoe
03-11-2005, 09:14 PM
Mackenzie i have to say your babysitter is right. Shes just protecting you so you wont go and starve yourself, like you want to

If you want to make your life better, take this advice

1. DONT LISTEN TO YOUR SISTERS! They're 9 and 11 and they aren't genious. Just because they say you are fat doesnt mean you are. Just say "Whatever" and walk away when they are insulting you.
2. If you want to lose weight, it doesnt mean go and avoid anything that is not a fruit or a vegetable, and definitley dont starve yourself
3. Don't be so jealous of everyone around you. They dont have perfect lives either.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 09:23 PM
You guys are right....I'm not really that overweight. Tonight my sisters admitted over and over that I'm not fat at all and they just use to say that to be mean. i haven't aten anything at all today except one cut up piece of an apple . My Mom's worried I have anorexia. My body won't let myself eat anymore.

But I'll stop talking about all this now, it's a waste of time and no one really thinks I'm overweight.

EmoJoe
03-11-2005, 09:24 PM
My Mom's worried I have anorexia.

You dont yet but you might soon if you continue to eat like you are

MaydayMalonesGirl
03-11-2005, 09:26 PM
You guys are right....I'm not really that overweight. Tonight my sisters admitted over and over that I'm not fat at all and they just use to say that to be mean. i haven't aten anything at all today except one cut up piece of an apple . My Mom's worried I have anorexia. My body won't let myself eat anymore.

But I'll stop talking about all this now, it's a waste of time and no one really thinks I'm overweight.

Go eat a big piece of cake. It'll make you feel better. :)

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-11-2005, 09:27 PM
Go eat a big piece of cake. It'll make you feel better. :)
I don't think that'd be a good idea, either. The kid might aquire bulemia.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't think that'd be a good idea, either. The kid might aquire bulemia.

Yeah, I don't even have cake anyway :lol:

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-11-2005, 09:39 PM
Yeah, I don't even have cake anyway :lol:
Don't quote me just because I said it was a bad idea to eat food. At least go eat a carrot stick. Go!

*MIBabe03*
03-11-2005, 09:41 PM
Don't quote me just because I said it was a bad idea to eat food. At least go eat a carrot stick. Go!

Now don't eat too many carrot sticks. If you eat too many of them, you'll turn orange.

G-Force Glockstar
03-11-2005, 09:42 PM
lol.

Well, I'm going to bed now. My eyes have been hurting me.
TTYL! :wave:

Brent88
03-11-2005, 09:47 PM
I eat junk food and unhealthy stuff all the time(including Pizza, Fried Catfish, Fried Chicken, and Hamburgers), and I weigh 115 lbs at 16... I'm actually a little underweight, even though I eat all the time and I DON'T exercise. I do move around quite a bit during the day... I'm rarely ever in the same spot for more than a half-hour or so(even on here I get up and walk around for a minute), so I guess that helps, but I also am homeschooled so you probably get a lot of walking in at school. It probably will come back to bite me in 25 years, but that's 25 years from now, I'll deal with it when the time comes. You only live once and a little pizza is not going to kill you(if it did, I would have been dead years ago). :p :lol:

TheGreatPretender
03-11-2005, 09:47 PM
no one really thinks I'm overweight.


I'm glad you finally realized that. :)

Pus$y Galore
03-11-2005, 10:03 PM
I'm glad you finally realized that. :)


Glad she discovered that too - smart kid afterall!!!

Siblings will find what they think bugs you the most and keeping proding at it just to harrass you (I'm sure you've got some of your own for them!!) too - they know you aren't and don't realize just what they could be doing. My two (older) brothers did it to me and I was stupid and listened - was anorexic and bulimic for many years. I'm better now, but still have health problems all because of it! Its not worth it - and you are. You need self-esteem - not a diet. Enjoy kiddo ;-)

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-11-2005, 10:07 PM
I'm glad you finally realized that. :)
:nod:

Cherry Lips
03-12-2005, 04:17 AM
Finally! Someone that's on my side.

It made no sense for her to punish me for not eating just a slice of pizza! Maybe I should have just aten it, but she still should've not done it.
Yes, I think it's wrong for her to punish you. If were hungry, you would of ate it right? ..Pizza isn't that bad for you, I mean one slice once in awhile wouldn't hurt. But she should respect your choice, about you wanting to eat that or not. You had a salad, at least you had something. And she is your sister not your parent, I don't think she has the right to punish you at all.

Belair
03-12-2005, 06:06 AM
I've eaten hamburgers,PIZZA,Cake,Hotdogs,and Ice Cream all my life,and have managed to maintain my slim physique.I honestly think that if I stopped eating fatty and sugary foods now,I'd probaly gain weight,becuase my body is so used to getting sh*t,and would probaly reject healthy food,although I do eat alot of fruit and vegetables.

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 09:18 AM
Yes, I think it's wrong for her to punish you. If were hungry, you would of ate it right? ..Pizza isn't that bad for you, I mean one slice once in awhile wouldn't hurt. But she should respect your choice, about you wanting to eat that or not. You had a salad, at least you had something. And she is your sister not your parent, I don't think she has the right to punish you at all.

Actually it wasn't really a salad. It was just the lettuce, with nothing on it not even dressing.

But still she should've not punished me. Oh well, I'm over it now.

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 10:44 AM
I finally ate something.....about an hour ago my Dad made me this healthy ceral (I forget what its called) with bananas and strawberries.
It was good, but I got full kinda quickly.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-12-2005, 11:46 AM
I finally ate something.....about an hour ago my Dad made me this healthy ceral (I forget what its called) with bananas and strawberries.
It was good, but I got full kinda quickly.
Good job. :)

Lady T
03-12-2005, 11:50 AM
I've eaten hamburgers,PIZZA,Cake,Hotdogs,and Ice Cream all my life,and have managed to maintain my slim physique.I honestly think that if I stopped eating fatty and sugary foods now,I'd probaly gain weight,becuase my body is so used to getting sh*t,and would probaly reject healthy food,although I do eat alot of fruit and vegetables.
I eat hamburgers and pizza, but I do stay away from sugar, since diabetes runs in my family, but I am slim and I am in my mid 30s, and the reason why I am still in decent shape is because I take care of my body by walking and staying active; straving your self is not the answer..or limiting your food in take, especially if you are only 13 years old!
Go out and be active!!!
And learn to LOVE YOURSELF!!! and stop relying on what OTHERS think...
Please learn to be happy the way you are as an individual.. :)

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 12:00 PM
Good job. :)

Thanks.....but for lunch I ate too much. I had five taco sticks and 2 cut up apples :-X

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
03-12-2005, 12:21 PM
Thanks.....but for lunch I ate too much. I had five taco sticks and 2 cut up apples :-X
That's not too much. That's normal and just fine.

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 12:22 PM
That's not too much. That's normal and just fine.

Alright :D

Warm & Fuzzy
03-12-2005, 01:43 PM
Lang:

One slice of pizza is not going to make you fat overnight. I have an ED (eating disorder), and even I know that!

Not eating will slow down your metabolism, and force your body to STORE FAT and LOSE MUSCLE. And FYI, muscle burns more calories than fat. Hence the next time you pig out, you will GAIN WEIGHT. And then you would have to restrict MORE and MORE until you're down to 100 calories a day, in which case you're better off to just exercise and eat in moderation.

If you're not going to take what we tell you here seriously, then don't make posts like these. Stop trying to find excuse after excuse. Again, sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

Stormtracker TF
03-12-2005, 01:54 PM
I eat junk food and unhealthy stuff all the time(including Pizza, Fried Catfish, Fried Chicken, and Hamburgers), and I weigh 115 lbs at 16... I'm actually a little underweight, even though I eat all the time and I DON'T exercise. I do move around quite a bit during the day... I'm rarely ever in the same spot for more than a half-hour or so(even on here I get up and walk around for a minute), so I guess that helps, but I also am homeschooled so you probably get a lot of walking in at school. It probably will come back to bite me in 25 years, but that's 25 years from now, I'll deal with it when the time comes. You only live once and a little pizza is not going to kill you(if it did, I would have been dead years ago). :p :lol:
I can't remember the last time I ate something healthy and I weigh 117, which is actually a bit underweight for me too considering I'm a guy. :lol:

And I don't even walk around alot because I'm homeschooled as well and dont really get out much.

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 02:14 PM
Lang:

One slice of pizza is not going to make you fat overnight. I have an ED (eating disorder), and even I know that!

Not eating will slow down your metabolism, and force your body to STORE FAT and LOSE MUSCLE. And FYI, muscle burns more calories than fat. Hence the next time you pig out, you will GAIN WEIGHT. And then you would have to restrict MORE and MORE until you're down to 100 calories a day, in which case you're better off to just exercise and eat in moderation.

If you're not going to take what we tell you here seriously, then don't make posts like these. Stop trying to find excuse after excuse. Again, sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

Thanks. And sorry, I won't make any more of these threads......at least not this year.

Pus$y Galore
03-12-2005, 02:22 PM
Yes, I think it's wrong for her to punish you. If were hungry, you would of ate it right? ..Pizza isn't that bad for you, I mean one slice once in awhile wouldn't hurt. But she should respect your choice, about you wanting to eat that or not. You had a salad, at least you had something. And she is your sister not your parent, I don't think she has the right to punish you at all.

Don't be too quick to judge the sitter here. From the sounds of it, this isn't the first time Lang Lang has had an issue with food and just eating a piece of lettuce (not a salad afterall she admits) is ridiculous. Could be her parents asked the sitter to keep an eye on this and enforce their wishes to have her eat - at least a little something. I think she had every right to punish in this case after reading all the threads and getting more of the story. She's just looking out for your best interest Lang Lang. The better eating habits you have now, the better you'll be able to maintain a healthy weight for the rest of your life. I would say the sitter was wrong if you had actually been feeling sick to your stomach and then trying to force you to eat. I'll bet your parents would have sided with her also. Glad to hear you ate some good cereal and fruit this morning. You will fill up fast on that stuff - that's the point - to give you the proper fuel to get on with your day! Good Stuff Lang Lang!

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 02:27 PM
Glad to hear you ate some good cereal and fruit this morning. You will fill up fast on that stuff - that's the point - to give you the proper fuel to get on with your day! Good Stuff Lang Lang!

:)

Tonight we're going to my cousins house.....and for dinner we always have fattening stuff. Should I still eat a little something or nothing? Because I have been starving myself for a few days and you know if you starve yourself it can make you gain more weight after you start eating again.

Pus$y Galore
03-12-2005, 02:28 PM
Lang:

One slice of pizza is not going to make you fat overnight. I have an ED (eating disorder), and even I know that!

Not eating will slow down your metabolism, and force your body to STORE FAT and LOSE MUSCLE. And FYI, muscle burns more calories than fat. Hence the next time you pig out, you will GAIN WEIGHT. And then you would have to restrict MORE and MORE until you're down to 100 calories a day, in which case you're better off to just exercise and eat in moderation.

If you're not going to take what we tell you here seriously, then don't make posts like these. Stop trying to find excuse after excuse. Again, sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

You said it perfectly Transit Whiz!

I also suffered from anorexia and bulimia for 20 years - take it from us - we know what we're talking about (your little sisters DON'T)! Exercise and eat in moderation (which means even TWO pieces of pizza occasionally) and you'll be fine. You won't be if you keep up the nonsense and starving yourself. (It gets really fun when your lips and tongue crack, your hair comes out in clumps and other signs of malnutrition start - it ain't attractive at all)!!

Pus$y Galore
03-12-2005, 02:35 PM
:)

Tonight we're going to my cousins house.....and for dinner we always have fattening stuff. Should I still eat a little something or nothing? Because I have been starving myself for a few days and you know if you starve yourself it can make you gain more weight after you start eating again.



No Hon - you've got to start to get yourself back to a proper eating pattern. When you go tonight, make sure you eat something. Maybe try to go for whatever is least fattening (I don't know exactly what kinds of foods they offer). Eat just until you are full. Then if you are concerned about gaining, get out and get a bit of exercise tomorrow - even a brisk walk around the block one or two times will help. It'll help burn off the calories you consume tonight. A few days of starving won't make you gain weight at this point. What height and weight are you? That might help me get a better of idea.

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 02:37 PM
No Hon - you've got to start to get yourself back to a proper eating pattern. When you go tonight, make sure you eat something. Maybe try to go for whatever is least fattening (I don't know exactly what kinds of foods they offer). Eat just until you are full. Then if you are concerned about gaining, get out and get a bit of exercise tomorrow - even a brisk walk around the block one or two times will help. It'll help burn off the calories you consume tonight. A few days of starving won't make you gain weight at this point. What height and weight are you? That might help me get a better of idea.

I think I'm 4' 11" or something. I remember my nurse saying last that I was almost 5 feet. I'm like 100 to 102 pounds.

Pus$y Galore
03-12-2005, 02:41 PM
I eat hamburgers and pizza, but I do stay away from sugar, since diabetes runs in my family, but I am slim and I am in my mid 30s, and the reason why I am still in decent shape is because I take care of my body by walking and staying active; straving your self is not the answer..or limiting your food in take, especially if you are only 13 years old!
Go out and be active!!!
And learn to LOVE YOURSELF!!! and stop relying on what OTHERS think...
Please learn to be happy the way you are as an individual.. :)

Listen to Lady T Lang - your problem ISN'T food or your weight - it's your self-image and esteem. You're not happy with yourself or feel you don't have "control" so you enforce control where you can - by what you put into your body. That's not the answer - and you won't feel better about yourself - only worse. I know at your age its SOOOO hard not to listen to others, but you've got to ignore what they say. My brothers teased me, I listened and ended up very sick for years - only now in my 40s (yes I'm ancient!!!) do I know my worth as a person. Love yourself sweetie - you deserve it!! Not eating is NOT cool!

Pus$y Galore
03-12-2005, 02:52 PM
I think I'm 4' 11" or something. I remember my nurse saying last that I was almost 5 feet. I'm like 100 to 102 pounds.


O.K. Kiddo - just ran a calculation for your age, gender, weight and height and this is what it said:

A 13 year old (female) child who is 101 pounds and is 4 feet and 11 inches tall has a body mass index of 20.4, which is at the 70th percentile, and would indicate that your child is at a healthy weight.

Remember, a child is considered to be:

overweight if they have a BMI over the 95th percentile for their age
at risk of becoming overweight if they have a BMI between the 85th and 95th percentile for their age
underweight if they have a BMI under the 5th percentile for their age
And a child has a healthy BMI if it is between the 5th and 85th percentile.

So see - if you're in the 70th percentile, you are WELL UNDER any risk of becoming overweight right now. As a matter of fact, you're in the PERFECT weight range for your age. I was actually heavier at that age and probably a little taller though. By the time I reached 18, I was 5'8" tall and weighed 134 lbs. (and that wasn't even a lot of muscle which weighs more than fat) I was being asked to do modelling jobs!! You're probably going to be a little thinner than me if you just keep eating right and keeping active. Pleeeease don't think you have a weight problem - you don't at all - just a poor self-image - that's the area you need to work on! No wonder your sitter insisted - listen to her - she DOES care about you!

x3 Taylor x3
03-12-2005, 02:59 PM
Wow...this is a very special thread.

Pus$y Galore
03-12-2005, 03:07 PM
Wow...this is a very special thread.


It has become that. I hope we're intervening just in time. I'm very concerned about this girl and don't want her to go down the same path I did. Let's hope she's listening and passes the information on to any of her friends that think the same way she has been.

One of the reasons I love Beonce - she's not skin and bones and looks fabulous - like a curvy female should! I just wish more stars would set good examples like her! ;)

x3 Taylor x3
03-12-2005, 03:21 PM
One of the reasons I love Beonce - she's not skin and bones and looks fabulous - like a curvy female should! I just wish more stars would set good examples like her! ;)

:nod: Me too.

G-Force Glockstar
03-12-2005, 04:07 PM
Thanks everyone ;)

Warm & Fuzzy
03-12-2005, 05:32 PM
You said it perfectly Transit Whiz!

I also suffered from anorexia and bulimia for 20 years - take it from us - we know what we're talking about (your little sisters DON'T)! Exercise and eat in moderation (which means even TWO pieces of pizza occasionally) and you'll be fine. You won't be if you keep up the nonsense and starving yourself. (It gets really fun when your lips and tongue crack, your hair comes out in clumps and other signs of malnutrition start - it ain't attractive at all)!!Thanks. :) And I'm also happy to hear you have recovered (given you're speaking in the past tense). What does it feel like, to be finally free of ana/mia? Do you still get triggered a lot? Did you have the help of a therapist? How long did recovery take?

I have COE & BED, with ana/mia tendancies.. meaning, I binge, I purge, I take laxatives, starve... yet I don't meet the clinical criterias for any of the aforementioned. So if anything, I have EDNOS. Oh what fun, huh? :rolleyes: Lang Lang, people with ED's SUFFER.... S U F F E R!!!!!

I've been trying to recover since 4/8/03 (yes, I remember the date, LOL).... but things have just been getting worse and worse. On 1/27/05, I told a teacher about this, and then I met with her again on 3/1 (?)... but I've yet to see her again. She said she'll try to find a specialist for me. I wish she would hurry up. All this anxiety that comes with waiting is making me binge. :(

Warm & Fuzzy
03-12-2005, 05:34 PM
:)

Tonight we're going to my cousins house.....and for dinner we always have fattening stuff. Should I still eat a little something or nothing? Because I have been starving myself for a few days and you know if you starve yourself it can make you gain more weight after you start eating again.Eat until you are physically content. Forget fat grams. Forget calories. Forget the weight. Enjoy yourself, and while you're at it, try to figure out WHY you are trying to lose weight in the FIRST place when you know you aren't overweight. ED's are not about the weight. They are not about the food. They are about your emotions.

dawsongirl
03-12-2005, 10:12 PM
Just lettuce? No wonder your babysitter freaked out. Lettuce has zero nutrition to it.

JT
03-13-2005, 02:07 AM
Girl please, you should have ate that damn pizza and let that be the end of it. If I had to babysit such a wannabe drama queen all the time, I'd end up stuffing her face with food too.

Jesus. You want to look like a walking stick with bones protruding out of your face, fine go on ahead, but when you do, and years later, your bones become brittle and you get osteoperosis, remember that all of your friends your age will have it too. Mhm. And that's even if you LIVE that long.

People have been talking nice and calm with you about this "problem" and it is obviously not working if you refused to eat a single slice of pizza, resulting in your turning in early. You need some tough love, dammit.

How hard is it for you to just eat something?! It's not like you have to literally force a whole pizza in your mouth or chug a whole can of Pepsi down in one gulp. Take your time, eat adequately. It won't hurt, unless you're sick or something. Just eat. Eat eat eat. Go to the Olive Garden or something. Indulge. Splurge on food. WHATEVER. JUST EAT SOMETHING!

Saying things like "I finally ate today" sounds so ridiculous coming from someone in America. You have the luxury to eat whatever and whenever you want, but yet you don't eat at all, because you want to go ahead and be with your totem pole friends. It is NOT healthy. Do NOT be like them. ENCOURAGE THEM TO EAT!!!

Quite frankly, if you were my daughter, I'd have you going to bed very early every single night if you refused to eat. And if that lasted long enough, you'd find yourself in a hospital bed with food being pumped into you through a tube.

And that's all I have to say, because in essence, I'm really speechless at how immature, how idotic, and how STUPID someone could be. Wanting to starve yourself...please, you have no idea what it is like to be overweight and to act as if you do is a slap in the face to all the people who ARE overweight. Now if you're reading this, I suggest you get your ass off the computer and into the kitchen pronto and just eat something already, before I become a bitch.

Georgia's on my Mind
03-13-2005, 02:17 AM
Just lettuce? No wonder your babysitter freaked out. Lettuce has zero nutrition to it.
MM empty plant cellulose!!!

Georgia's on my Mind
03-13-2005, 02:18 AM
Girl please, you should have ate that damn pizza and let that be the end of it. If I had to babysit such a wannabe drama queen all the time, I'd end up stuffing her face with food too.

Jesus. You want to look like a walking stick with bones protruding out of your face, fine go on ahead, but when you do, and years later, your bones become brittle and you get osteoperosis, remember that all of your friends your age will have it too. Mhm. And that's even if you LIVE that long.

People have been talking nice and calm with you about this "problem" and it is obviously not working if you refused to eat a single slice of pizza, resulting in your turning in early. You need some tough love, dammit.

How hard is it for you to just eat something?! It's not like you have to literally force a whole pizza in your mouth or chug a whole can of Pepsi down in one gulp. Take your time, eat adequately. It won't hurt, unless you're sick or something. Just eat. Eat eat eat. Go to the Olive Garden or something. Indulge. Splurge on food. WHATEVER. JUST EAT SOMETHING!

Saying things like "I finally ate today" sounds so ridiculous coming from someone in America. You have the luxury to eat whatever and whenever you want, but yet you don't eat at all, because you want to go ahead and be with your totem pole friends. It is NOT healthy. Do NOT be like them. ENCOURAGE THEM TO EAT!!!

Quite frankly, if you were my daughter, I'd have you going to bed very early every single night if you refused to eat. And if that lasted long enough, you'd find yourself in a hospital bed with food being pumped into you through a tube.

And that's all I have to say, because in essence, I'm really speechless at how immature, how idotic, and how STUPID someone could be. Wanting to starve yourself...please, you have no idea what it is like to be overweight and to act as if you do is a slap in the face to all the people who ARE overweight. Now if you're reading this, I suggest you get your ass off the computer and into the kitchen pronto and just eat something already, before I become a bitch.
i love you.

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 02:23 AM
MM empty plant cellulose!!!

I know I love it! Especially plain. Yummy!

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 02:24 AM
before I become a bitch.

:rofl: You rule.

Georgia's on my Mind
03-13-2005, 02:28 AM
I know I love it! Especially plain. Yummy!
You're looking a little bloated...I mean, god...is your rib cage even there? i think we should share a peice...

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 02:29 AM
You're looking a little bloated...I mean, god...is your rib cage even there? i think we should share a peice...

Okay. But I guess I better give you the bigger half.

Georgia's on my Mind
03-13-2005, 02:30 AM
Okay. But I guess I better give you the bigger half.
you better. *ravages lettuce*

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 02:30 AM
Girl please, you should have ate that damn pizza and let that be the end of it. If I had to babysit such a wannabe drama queen all the time, I'd end up stuffing her face with food too.

Jesus. You want to look like a walking stick with bones protruding out of your face, fine go on ahead, but when you do, and years later, your bones become brittle and you get osteoperosis, remember that all of your friends your age will have it too. Mhm. And that's even if you LIVE that long.

People have been talking nice and calm with you about this "problem" and it is obviously not working if you refused to eat a single slice of pizza, resulting in your turning in early. You need some tough love, dammit.

How hard is it for you to just eat something?! It's not like you have to literally force a whole pizza in your mouth or chug a whole can of Pepsi down in one gulp. Take your time, eat adequately. It won't hurt, unless you're sick or something. Just eat. Eat eat eat. Go to the Olive Garden or something. Indulge. Splurge on food. WHATEVER. JUST EAT SOMETHING!

Saying things like "I finally ate today" sounds so ridiculous coming from someone in America. You have the luxury to eat whatever and whenever you want, but yet you don't eat at all, because you want to go ahead and be with your totem pole friends. It is NOT healthy. Do NOT be like them. ENCOURAGE THEM TO EAT!!!

Quite frankly, if you were my daughter, I'd have you going to bed very early every single night if you refused to eat. And if that lasted long enough, you'd find yourself in a hospital bed with food being pumped into you through a tube.

And that's all I have to say, because in essence, I'm really speechless at how immature, how idotic, and how STUPID someone could be. Wanting to starve yourself...please, you have no idea what it is like to be overweight and to act as if you do is a slap in the face to all the people who ARE overweight. Now if you're reading this, I suggest you get your ass off the computer and into the kitchen pronto and just eat something already, before I become a bitch.Whoah. :eek: And I thought I was blunt, LOL. Jae Tee my buddy! Hehe. :hug:

It's true, everything you've said, however, a hard-core anorexic may find eating to be a VERY, VERY difficult task, no matter HOW smart he/she is. I don't believe, however, this is the case with Lang, tho. So yeah... Lang, it's NOT too late to reverse this. Do it NOW (and I mean NOW) before its too late. You have the benefits of being able to talk to all these people on Sitcomsonline. I on the other hand, chose not to talk about it.. I chose isolation, and I left Sitcomsonline for a year..... and boy, oh BOY, did I wish I had NOT done that... I wish I had someone like JT to tell me how stupid I was...... but I didn't know. I was ignorant, and now I am paying the price.... I am very sick right now. I am SO close to landing myself in a hospital. :(

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 02:32 AM
you better. *ravages lettuce*

*picks at it* This is gonna blow my 1 calorie a day diet. :(

Georgia's on my Mind
03-13-2005, 02:33 AM
*picks at it* This is gonna blow my 1 calorie a day diet. :(
oh, i'm on a -30 one....vomitting is our friend.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 02:33 AM
Thanks. :) And I'm also happy to hear you have recovered (given you're speaking in the past tense). What does it feel like, to be finally free of ana/mia? Do you still get triggered a lot? Did you have the help of a therapist? How long did recovery take?

I have COE & BED, with ana/mia tendancies.. meaning, I binge, I purge, I take laxatives, starve... yet I don't meet the clinical criterias for any of the aforementioned. So if anything, I have EDNOS. Oh what fun, huh? :rolleyes: Lang Lang, people with ED's SUFFER.... S U F F E R!!!!!

I've been trying to recover since 4/8/03 (yes, I remember the date, LOL).... but things have just been getting worse and worse. On 1/27/05, I told a teacher about this, and then I met with her again on 3/1 (?)... but I've yet to see her again. She said she'll try to find a specialist for me. I wish she would hurry up. All this anxiety that comes with waiting is making me binge. :(

Wow - I'm just thinking how long it would take to describe properly all that happened and just how I did it. I think it would be WAY too long for this thread, (private email would probably be better and I would be willing to go into detail - especially if I think it could help someone and prevent it from happening to them. Firstly, I never did require a therapist (although it probably would have helped me recover faster and better since it did almost completely later in life when I was 34 - I waited WAY too long). I was in my late teens and there were a series of bad events in my family that I now look back on and from what I've studied about EDs must have led up to and been my breaking point. I never really had good self-esteem or worth to begin with. I didn't realize it at the time, but starving myself was a way I felt control when events in my life seemed out of my control. And the more people bugged me about how skinny I was or how ill I looked or why didn't I eat, the more it drove me further into it. The hunger pangs almost gave me a high - I felt the more I could put them out of my mind,the more control I had. In the meantime, I was getting very paranoid and edgy. The corners of my lips cracked, the skin on my tongue burned (vitamin deficiencies), my hair fell out in handfuls (and it doesn't grow back like it does after chemo even), nails were weak, soft and splitting. I cried all the time and became very depressed. My sugar levels were everywhere and my blood pressure was very low - I would get dizzy and feel faint. I had terrible intestinal cramping and couldn't "go" since there was nothing there. They basically were shutting down. In 1983, a popular singer from the 70s called Karen Carpenter (you can google her to find out more) died suddenly in her early 30s from anorexia. No one had even really known she had it, or even much about it back then - don't know if it was terror or just what, but I think it was that, that scared me. I realized I had the same thing and just did not want to die. I decided I had to try to start eating. It was horrible. I would chew a piece of dry toast for 20 minutes trying to choke it down. I'd gag and just try to eat as much as I possibly could - sobbing the whole time. I just had to slowly build it back up. I wouldn't let myself check the scale. It wasn't easy but I just treated it like an addiction and summoned the willpower. Again, didn't know it at the time, but even though I started eating, I realized that by taking laxatives (started because of my bowels shutting down), I could purge most of what I ate. (Not too brilliant!) By age 33, even though I was eating, I was still purging and now very, very depressed - suicidal. Memories of something that happened in my childhood resurfaced that I had supressed and EVERYTHING came to a head. It was my boss at work that insisted I get help and that's when I finally was put in touch with a therapist. Luckily we clicked and I was put on Prozac and in twice weekly therapy sessions for a couple of years. I wish I had done that SO much earlier in life. It was in there that I was taught what had triggered it, and relieved of guilt, forgave people I needed to and was taught how to start loving myself. By the time I reached 40, I thought of all the years and fun in life I wasted by not letting myself enjoy the simple, wonderful things like tasting a good meal - your favourite food (ice cream!!!!) or walking into a room without sucking my stomach in, or being freaked out by what other people thought of me - and ya know what? I've got more great, true friends now who love me for who I am because I'm able to be myself.
Bottom line is that the longer you let it go, the harder it is to get over it and these days - there is so much help around. People understand better and getting therapy is nothing to be ashamed of. If you feel your teacher is taking too long to get you help, go to someone else who can - another trusted teacher, a guidance counsellor, someone from your church, your parents, or even look in your phone book. Many cities will offer help and distress lines. They can give you someone to talk to that won't judge you. They'll put you in touch with the proper help - don't know where you are, but your health insurance should cover this. They can put you in touch with a specialist within a couple of days. Lang Lang would probably need to speak to an adult first to get help - if not her parents, teachers - maybe even the babysitter who cared and saw first hand that there could be a big problem starting. But GET HELP AS SOON AS YOU CAN. At worst it might fail the first time - keep trying. The problem runs a lot deeper than just wanting to be thin believe me! That's only the symptom that you see. That's why its getting worse for you - and it will continue to worsen.
As corny as this might sound - it IS like the song says, "The greatest love of all, is learning to love yourself" - life will fall into place for you once you've achieved that.
I happily turned 44 yesterday - middle-age spread starting and all - and now I just feel that I've earned every wrinkle, bit of flab, grey hair and a lot of wisdom! It sucked that it took a long time, but ya know, it'll all be worth it if I can prevent it happening to someone else and be able to help them early on. You've suffered enough - dig in, save yourself, love yourself, you'll love life and more importantly, it'll love you back.
Oh yeah.......and wear sunscreen!!!! ;-) :wave:

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 02:45 AM
oh, i'm on a -30 one....vomitting is our friend.
Oh yes. Can you imagine what I'd weigh without it?? 50 lbs maybe! :eek:

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 02:46 AM
Going to "become" a bitch? Think its already too late for that!!

The last thing this girl needs is anybody judging her right now. You don't know her history or anything else. Nor have you ever had an eating disorder so you're no Dr. Phil! She obviously made the post to put it out there. She's reaching out for help and advice and you're playing Omarosa. Obviously the "tough love" didn't work either since she felt the need to discuss this afterwards. She seems like a smart kid, who at this point, knows something's not right with her thinking. Give her a break o.k.?
It is true, we are the luckiest people on the face of the earth here in North America. Even the poorest person (unless maybe you're homeless) lives better than kings and queens did in Europe in past centuries. Central heat, central air, cleanliness, incredible selection of food. But the stupid media and society puts more pressure now on looks, popularity, and superficially living now more than any other time. Teenagers are going through so much these days and they're the most vunerable to this. Its easy for them to not truly appreciate and get caught up in issues. Older people might think they're trivial, but to a young person it seems like the end of the world. I wish I had an outlet like the internet to get advice when I was her age!!
Now, let's just hope she absorbs some of it and if we see these sort of posts years or even months from now, then I'd like to kick her ass and try the tough love next - but for now, let her express herself. You don't have to keep checking this thread if it bothers you.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 02:51 AM
Oh yes. Can you imagine what I'd weigh without it?? 50 lbs maybe! :eek:


Nice that you guys are so perfect. Geez, now shouldn't perfect young girls be OUT on a Saturday night and not sitting at a computer teasing someone they have no real information about or any right to judge?

I would think you two would have better things to do. And I've got a better idea of what you could do with that lettuce than nibble on it!!! Don't worry - you'll still gain weight my way!!!
:lol: :wave:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 02:54 AM
TripperFan- First off, happy be-lated 44th birthday!!!!!! Had you clung onto ana, you may not have even made it this far. I give you BIG, BIG props. :hug: Happy birthday!!!

Thanks so much for sharing your story with me/us. I've read so many stories similiar to yours and they are all so very sad. Yep, it's true.. the longer you wait, the worse it becomes. I'm learning this... the hard way. Because no one warned me when I was just beginning... :( And now I'm so deep into bingeing/restricting that I don't know WHAT to do with myself anymore.

As for my teacher.... she's basically the only one I can really trust. My parents aren't very supportive. They're the CAUSE of my ED, if ANYTHING. My dad constantly tells me how fat I am, and he also abuses me... physically, emotionally, and se...... well, you know. :( And my mom just doesn't care about me. My brother's mentally challenged, so I have more responsibilites than I SHOULD be having. I go to an honors school, so school-work is stressful, competitions are vigorous... But of course, I've told no one in the physical life about any of this... to honor them. I have so many emotional pains bottled up inside of me.... and I binge to bury them.

I do many things on my own, and I've fought many battles by myself, too... One being my eyesight. I've had less than perfect vision since Jan 1999, and it wasn't until Nov 2005 did I get glasses... WITHOUT my parents knowing. And even now... I hide it from them every day... because I am so ashamed of myself. I fear I will be mocked (yes, by my own parents)... and its just unbearable the way they stress little things over and over. Hiding, of course, makes me have panic-attacks and stuff, which isn't pleasant...

Another example was when I first got my period... it took me 1.5 years to tell them, and I was basically forced into telling because I was on vacation... maybe too much info? But I'm just trying to illustrate to you what an awful relationship I have with them.

Anyway, like I said, I've fought many battles on my own.... but this ED is something I CAN'T fight off on my own, and it has taken me FOREVER to finally realize... Which is why it hurts me so much to see Lang heading down this AWFUL, AWFUL path... and frankly, I'm afraid to see my teacher again, truth be told. I feel like I'm rushing her to do things for me... that I'm asking for too much.

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 03:00 AM
Nice that you guys are so perfect. Geez, now shouldn't perfect young girls be OUT on a Saturday night and not sitting at a computer teasing someone they have no real information about or any right to judge?

I would think you two would have better things to do. And I've got a better idea of what you could do with that lettuce than nibble on it!!! Don't worry - you'll still gain weight my way!!!
:lol: :wave:

1. Chris is a boy.
2. It was just a joke. We're perfectly aware of the seriousness of the situation.
3. You don't need to have had an eating disorder to give advice, Miss Perfect.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 03:24 AM
Oh TransitWhiz - I know EXACTLY what you're going through. It was basically my parent's fault to a large degree too - with other factors - here we go (since I don't know how to get a private email address to you):
I was sexually molested by my eldest brother from the age of 5 - 11 yrs. My mother walked in one night. I was terrified, but also relived as I thought they would help me. Nooooooo - it was buried as the family dirty secret. I was told never to mention it and they never even asked for details from me, chalked it up to my brother as being "harmless playing doctor" and I was told never to discuss it with them or anyone or I would embarrass the whole family. My other brother who knew this had been going on was no help. He told all his friends about it. I would walk to school and his friends would be on the other side of the street walking to their highschool, and would yell, "Hey - ya little c$ck-s%cker - come do me!" (I would just hide my face and pick up the pace - if I ran, everyone would know it was me). Even when I had my first internal vaginal exam, my (female) doctor out loud mentioned to me that I had scar tissue. I took it as her shaming me that I wasn't a virgin (age 13). She never told my parents (which by today's standards I think is the law). I was praying she would make something of it but no. My father was an alcoholic. He never hit me, but would put me down. So did my mother - never encouraged me on anything - just told me I was a "drama queen" (That's why I freaked at that other comment - its SO ignorant).
There was a ton of other crap going on too but it was when my father died of a sudden heart attack that it triggered the starvation. The last time I spoke to him (my mother had just left him and wouldn't let me go to college as she needed help with the rent and living expenses so she took me with her) we had a terrible fight over the phone. I never got to speak to him again and the guilt and unfinished business was overwhelming.
I fully understand not wanting to speak to your parents - in many cases, they are an underlying cause to this disease (and it is a disease - if you found out you had diabetes, wouldn't you get treatment asap)? Don't feel bad about approaching the same teacher if she's the only one you can trust. You're showing your lack of self-esteem again! You ARE worth the effot. I haven't a clue who you guys are or where you are, or what you look like, or have or haven't done in your life and I care and think you deserve help - so imagine what someone who knows and likes you would do. As I say though, if you look through the back of a newspaper, you'll even find help/distress lines there. Just because you might not be suicidal, or have a official clinical diagnoses of an ED, doesn't mean they can't or won't help you. Just you discussing this is a great first step and shows that deep down you DO value yourself and you know you have value. A good therapist will put it in perspective for you. They don't directly give you answers, but they guide you through the process of discovering it for yourself. I was finally able to let go of the guilt and shame I had felt all my life. He pointed out that no 5 year old can be responsible for what happened to me. He even was able to teach me how to forgive my brother (although it did take a while in my own time). Your ED is actually the manifestation of your ANGER towards your parents but because you feel no self worth and have been down trodden for so long, you find it easier to take it out on yourself than the people and things you should be. Therapy gets to the roots and I won't lie, it is painful, but not nearly as painful as what it will be if you don't get it - that's if you live long enough because this is serious sh#t - people do die or screw up their health for the rest of their life. I have both fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis and other health issues still - that were caused or worsened by the EDs. Please, you can do this - it will take a while and there will be setbacks - that doesn't mean you are a failure or will fail, its all part of the process and you have no idea of how great it feels when you get beyond the wall - I know this sounds so sloppy, but it really is like a rebirth. I almost truly feel like my life really didn't start until my mid-thirties, but it would have happened earlier I know had I gotten the help I needed.
If you're still stumped on how to reach out for help, let me know, and somehow we'll figure out over this forum if we have to, how to get your or anyone else wanting help there!! You're not alone - and you're heading in the right direction!

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 03:34 AM
1. Chris is a boy.
2. It was just a joke. We're perfectly aware of the seriousness of the situation.
3. You don't need to have had an eating disorder to give advice, Miss Perfect.

I know you don't, but you're really not giving advice - its mean spirited, and knowing what she's feeling, I know its actually the worst thing she needs right now. You guys have no idea what you could be doing to her by what you're saying - seriously! I know you're kidding, and I used to get the same thing, but it would piss me off, so instead of getting mad at the people who bugged me, I internalized it and starved myself all the more. I know this sounds f&$*ed up to most guys - but this runs WAY deeper than girls "wanting to look thin".
Actually, I know if anything, you're trying to get the point across that guys probably aren't nearly as critical as she thinks and they aren't going to want to date a chick that's built like a telephone pole - right? Hell - if you want that - you could just date another guy (LOL - but that's a whole other thread right?)
I know you're joking, and that's fine, but also just balance it out a bit with something half decent, like, "but seriously, don't have to be so critical". Ya know, if anything, it probably would be a real help to get some input and feedback from a guy! Maybe how Dr. Phil started and look at the coin he's making today!!!!
Sincerely,
Ms. Never-said-I-was-perfect - and I wouldn't want to be - its not interesting! :D

Mr. Stefani
03-13-2005, 03:39 AM
u all need some ****ing shrooms

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 03:44 AM
u all need some ****ing shrooms



Actually we prefer bennies thanx

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 03:44 AM
TripperFan:

Awww, I'm so sorry to hear about your childhood.. and to be molested by your own brother is beyond belief, but I'm glad you are now able to forgive him. How old was he when he did this? I can just imagine the embarassment you must've felt. It's the secrets, I tell yah... all the hiding that makes these things extra painful.. the feeling of crying for help, and not have anyone come to you. Crying at night.. feeling all this pain, but not having anyone know.

For a time I was suicidal, sometimes I DO wish I can just die... and no, I don't say this because I'm an attention-whore or anything. It's how I REALLY feel... it's how much I hate my life. How much I hate myself and my very existence, even. But I don't think I could ever kill myself... I'm too chicken even to do THAT, LOL.

The thing with setbacks caught my attention. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've "failed." I'm so sick and tired of trying and trying, and then just heading back to square one... and in a WORSE position than I was initially. I've gained 26 pounds in less than a year.... and bingeing did this to me... I've completely lost control. I binged today, too... my stomach is ALWAYS bloated, and I've been told by someone else that it has probably gotten to the point where the upper part of my stomach is being pushed into my rib cage. It's hard for me to breathe sometimes... like now. :(

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 04:18 AM
My brother is almost 10 years older than me so he would have been about 15 when it started - up to age 21 - even at 15, he was old enough to know better. He had lots of opportunity too because he would get home from school and do it then before my parents came home and also whenever he was left to babysit me. I dreaded it. It happened almost daily - no less than 4 times a week - for 6 years straight.
Again, know exactly what you're feeling. I was first suicidal at 15 - and made several half-assed dramatic attempts - all crying out for attention (like you, we're all really too chicken - so smart - to follow through). My guidance counsellor at school got me help (I got sent down cuz I nearly punched out a teacher). I also was running with a rough crowd and experimenting with every drug I could get my hands on (again - hoping to numb the pain and get a few hours reprive). I saw a shrink but only went once - you need to "click" with someone and trust them and I couldn't with this guy). Luckily, my mom did take more notice and really did help me out a bit more (although we still never discussed the dirty secret). It got me over the "acute" stage of suicide, but really, I was still depressed for a long time - and then go through better stages, but still purging and suppressing a lot of crap. It was again at 33 that I knew I needed to finally get help or I'd be starving myself again on top of the purging and I'd be dead the slow, painful way within months.
Yes, had a lot of failures, but you know it's true - what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. You just have to keep telling yourself daily. You're also probably trying to fix everything at once. Can't eat an elephant in one bite. Start by making a private list of each thing that you know you're angry or upset about - for example 1. My dad 2. My mom 3. Self-esteem 4. School etc.. Put them in priority order - what's causing you pain the worst, or want you need to fix first. Then you work in each problem in order. That's why I say its a slow process, but this way, you're not as overwhelmed and therefore, not as likely to fail. And if you do, move on to the next and go back. Failures are what teach us - they're nothing to be ashamed of. They can be frustrating, but that's what makes it more rewarding.
And hey - I've also put on around 25 lbs in the past few years. I look in the mirror, I'm not thrilled with it, but hey - I'm just too damned selfish and now to deny myself treats. I figure I've worked my butt off for the past 25 years and missed so much that its too important to me to go back now. You'll find the older you get, the more you'll appreciate life - it has so much to offer once you've dropped your baggage. The teen years are the worst - hormones are going crazy and they drive a lot more than you know - they play a huge part in the insecurity and the need to fit in too - even with guys. Teach yourself to stop being your own victim and turn the anger towards the ones that truly deserve it. I know its easier to say than do, but its do-able - and the more you do it, the easier it does get.
If the extra gut is bugging you, your best bet is to do situps/crunchs in your room. You're young, and the weight just drops off at your age (God I envy you). You know in your heart that starving or bingeing isn't the answer so listen to yourself more. Write a private journal, but don't just write the days events or your feelings (although definitely add those too) - everyday, find something good about yourself - anything - and we all do have good points - you have to keep reminding yourself of that. Look at the list OFTEN! I'll bet you could write a hundred things about your brother, and can't easily come up with one for yourself right now, but keep working on it. It sound hokey, and you'll feel foolish maybe even but this really does work. Then you'll find when you're feeling horrible, they'll pop into your head and you will start hearing your voice, saying hey - I'm not nearly as bad or deserving of this as I thought - and it snowballs from there. What's to hurt in giving it a try - or at least entertaining the thought!

Well, I just realized what time it is and can't believe I'm still up. Gonna have to sign-off for now, but will be back to check on you. Don't piss me off by giving up!!

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 04:19 AM
Oh yeah - and thx for the b'day wishes!

Anyday above ground is a good one!!! nuuck nuuck nuuck! :crazy:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 04:46 AM
TripperFan:
Awww, how awful of your brother. :( It upsets me so much just to hear about it. And yeah, at 15, he should've known better, but maybe your brother has problems of his, own, too? And the only way for HIM to resolve HIS problems was to take on YOU. It's entirely possible, you know. But I praise you so much for being able to forgive him.

Im also glad to hear that you decided to get more help so that you wouldn't fall back into your old habits. I can imagine how hard that was for you, but you've certainly made a wise decision in doing so. :)

Cant eat a whole elephant, in one bite, ayy? Wanna BET? LOL! I think I'll manage it stuff several toes down my throat, if anything. :)

And oh... I am upset over soooooo many things!!! Everything seems to be pissing me off nowadays, especially my parents, and school. I dont have many friends, either.. so that doesnt help. I realise I should take things one at a time... but oh my gosh... it's sooooo overwhelming.. and everything seems to be interconnected. I dont even know where to start! The confusion/uncertainty is unbearable!

And I have a journal, a food journal I OBSESS over, I swear I spend like 6 hours a day working on it.... looking at it, LOL. I'm NUTS!!! It's online, too, so if you're interested in seeing it, just say the magic words. ;) And I've tried writing good things about myself once in a while, but they only offer a temporary comfort.... I eventually always turn back to food. :lookaroun The problem is that food's EVERYWHERE.... and my parents, they force-feed me ALL the time. Even when I tell them I am FULL (honestly full), they continue to stuff things down my throat... and after they DO, they make fun of me and say things like, "OMG, look how much you just ate! HAHAHAHAA," "you're gonna become a fata$s if you continue to eat like that!! HAHAHAHA"... etc.. when THEY are the ones who force me to eat so much in the first place! My mom's idea of a serving of noodles is ONE quart (not 1.25 cups), and of course... I eat it all because she forces me. Her idea of a serving of strawberries, even is 16oz's worth.... which is way too much, even of something healthy! :eek:

As for situp's and crunches.... I dont have my own room. I share it with BOTH my parents, and my brother.... and on Sundays, I share it with my godgrandmother, too. :( I have NO PRIVACY!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody ever leaves me alone. :( And I dont think you know the vastness of my stomach, LOL....... it's WAYYYY too big for someone my height/weight, almost unbelieveably big... like pregnant big, even BEFORE I eat. Which is why I have so much trouble breathing nowadays... makes my heart pound, too. :(

And speaking of "late," it's 4:46am on my end. I havent even gone to bed yet! And the sad part of it all is that my parents dont even care... and not only do they NOT care... but my stomach is upsetting me to sleep. :( TOO full... too bloated, it's stretched to the max. Sigh.

Hollow
03-13-2005, 05:08 AM
2. It was just a joke. We're perfectly aware of the seriousness of the situation.
i know none of you mean any harm but you'd be surprised how far a joke about it, and especially scolding them about their problems can go. mackenzie has made it clear how emotionally sensitive she is. when i get made fun of for being suicidal and depressed or told to get over it and stop feeling sorry for muself (which hasn't been recently, it was mostly last year) or whatever it wiped out even more of the little self esteem i had and made me want to kill myself even more just to show them what they've done and make them feel guilty for the rest of their lives. i would talk more and more about how worthless i am to the world, cut my wrists and make it deeper and more visible, basically present my problems more intensely. and i didn't fully realize it at the time but i only did that as a cry for help, just to hint to everyone to stop joking about it and how close i was to ending my life.

just so i don't look like a miserable cranky bitch here is a picture of captain mcallister moments away from sneezing. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?s=&postid=2250237 goodnight fools.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 05:51 AM
i know none of you mean any harm but you'd be surprised how far a joke about it, and especially scolding them about their problems can go. mackenzie has made it clear how emotionally sensitive she is. when i get made fun of for being suicidal and depressed or told to get over it and stop feeling sorry for muself (which hasn't been recently, it was mostly last year) or whatever it wiped out even more of the little self esteem i had and made me want to kill myself even more just to show them what they've done and make them feel guilty for the rest of their lives. i would talk more and more about how worthless i am to the world, cut my wrists and make it deeper and more visible, basically present my problems more intensely. and i didn't fully realize it at the time but i only did that as a cry for help, just to hint to everyone to stop joking about it and how close i was to ending my life.

just so i don't look like a miserable cranky bitch here is a picture of captain mcallister moments away from sneezing. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?s=&postid=2250237 goodnight fools.Yeah, such behaviors usually indicate a cry for help, but many people don't realize this. It's not because you're an "attention-whore," you're just suffering, without anyone by your side-- and that's just sad. It's the same way with me, too, so I understand. :hug:

One thing this eating disorder has taught me is to be more open to other people's thoughts/behaviors. Some things may seen minute to one person, but may also be the world to another. I feel I have grown a lot out of this.

MsOrange
03-13-2005, 07:43 AM
never mind... i decided this was probably too controversial for this crowd

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 09:55 AM
Tripperfan,

I send you a PM.



Sorry about your situation, btw :(

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 12:21 PM
i know none of you mean any harm but you'd be surprised how far a joke about it, and especially scolding them about their problems can go. mackenzie has made it clear how emotionally sensitive she is. when i get made fun of for being suicidal and depressed or told to get over it and stop feeling sorry for muself (which hasn't been recently, it was mostly last year) or whatever it wiped out even more of the little self esteem i had and made me want to kill myself even more just to show them what they've done and make them feel guilty for the rest of their lives. i would talk more and more about how worthless i am to the world, cut my wrists and make it deeper and more visible, basically present my problems more intensely. and i didn't fully realize it at the time but i only did that as a cry for help, just to hint to everyone to stop joking about it and how close i was to ending my life.

just so i don't look like a miserable cranky bitch here is a picture of captain mcallister moments away from sneezing. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?s=&postid=2250237 goodnight fools.



EXACTLY!!! Couldn't have said it better myself. Do you know how many suicides are actually done out of revenge and to punish others the way you've felt punished? This is definitely not something anyone should joke about. Best to find another thread if you feel the need!

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 12:26 PM
If someone will not take the advice offered, why even start this topic.

Look at DesperateFan_03. She can't even eat pizza. Think of her situation. And I never have even heard her complain. It seems as if you are complaining that you want to eat, but you won't.

I don't wanna eat.....when did I say that??

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 12:33 PM
You didn't even read my post. I didn't say you wanted to eat. Go back and look at the key details words.

It seems as if you are complaining that you want to eat, but you won't.
That's what you said.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:05 PM
Oh, and one last word - have you read what Transit Whiz has been through at all?I would be hurt ever so greatly if she weren't. :( But I sense that she may just be skimming through my comments and is ignorant to the points I am trying to get across to her, given she hasn't been very committed to responding to the comments I have written FOR her in the first place. (Like the one I quoted below last week, for example.) Lang, you seldom respond to my comments. I don't mean to be a brat, but you skipped through everything I have just said in this thread and responded to TripperFan. And in the last thread, you didn't respond either. I'm hurt. :(

Lang Lang, first off, at 5 feet and 102 pounds, your body mass index is 19.9, and that is within the average range of 18.5-24.9 (the thinner half). So, you do not need to lose weight. You probably just have a distorted image of yourself.

Secondly, it's "bulimia" and "anorexia." (Sorry, but I get offended when people spell them wrong). Neither of them is a lifestyle. It is also not something you choose. They are disorders/diseases and they will make you SUFFER.

Thirdly, I myself suffer from an array of eating disorders. Take into consideration some of my previous posts. I'm not going to go and look for them, but if I were you, I would look carefully before approaching such a dangerous path to weight loss. You are 13, right? Don't screw yourself up like I did. I am 16 now, and I am miserable, unhappy, isolated, depressed... life is not well. So don't do what I did. Go to http://www.something-fishy.org, and scare yourself off.

Sorry to be blunt, but eating disorders KILL, if not physically, emotionally. TRUST me. Take it from someone who knows... it is NOT something you want.

Tell me, is THIS beauty, Lang Lang??? Once you are in the grasp of anorexia or bulimia, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE for you to stop, you hear? You may think "oh, once I reach 80 pounds I will stop," but it's FAR more difficult than that. So don't start.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:07 PM
I would be hurt ever so greatly if she weren't. :( But I sense that she may just be skimming through my comments and is ignorant to the points I am trying to get across to her, given she hasn't been very committed to responding to the comments I have written FOR her in the first place. (Like the one I quoted below last week, for example.) Lang, you seldom respond to my comments. :(

I'm sorry :( I feel sorry for both you and Tripperfan.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:10 PM
I'm sorry :( I feel sorry for both you and Tripperfan.That's not what I meant. I don't need for anyone to feel sorry for me. The point is that you're not being adequately attentive to the TRUE points I am trying to get across. You haven't any problems trying to justify why you shouldn't eat, but whenever something more blunt/serious is thrown at you- whenever someone lays the FACTS out to you- it's almost as if you are ignoring them. And the way I am seeing it, that's the issue here.

Furthermore, be honest with me now- have you even bothered to click on the link I gave you?

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:19 PM
Furthermore, be honest with me now- have you even bothered to click on the link I gave you?

What link? :confused:

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:21 PM
[QUOTE=Jonathan]It is clear that you do not want anyone to feel sorry for you, Transit. I admire you for wanting help. :)

Mackenzie:

Did you read the Karen Carpenter story? Does that make a difference to you? When you have all of these examples of what it has done to people, why do you continue to want to danger yourself like this? Does that not make you realize anorexia or bulimia is the wrong way to go?

This was discussed on a few episodes of MTV's The Real World: Philadelphia.[/QUOTE


A few people told me about Karen Carpenter.
They told me she had belimia and died. Yes, it's a sad story. I have a feeling that's not all. But I know she had a beautful singing voice!

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:22 PM
You haven't read anything.

Yes, I have! Maybe I haven't listened to everything (which I pretty much have), but it doesn't mean I didn't read anything.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:25 PM
It is clear that you do not want anyone to feel sorry for you, Transit. I admire you for wanting help. :)

Mackenzie:

Did you read the Karen Carpenter story? Does that make a difference to you? When you have all of these examples of what it has done to people, why do you continue to want to danger yourself like this? Does that not make you realize anorexia or bulimia is the wrong way to go?

This was discussed on a few episodes of MTV's The Real World: Philadelphia.Thanks, Jonathan. :)

As for the Karen Carpenter story, yes. Do some reasearch, Lang. Read some books. Watch some movies. I referred to you a website, so GO and read it. Rather than spending your time, reading about fad-diets or whatever, read about the DANGERS of eating disorders. You are not to be interested in opinions. You need to know the FACTS.

You have a WHOLE lot of information on the internet- within hand's reach. You have this community warning you to not let this go any further. I will reiterate- I never had any warning. Nobody ever told me "No." I didn't know about eating disorders UNTIL I was well into one. I was ignorant. I didn't KNOW I had a problem, and it has gotten so bad now that I can't even stop on my own. But YOU, you know that something isn't right, so isn't it time for you to try to fix that before it gets any worse? Talk to a school counselor, if you will.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:26 PM
What link? :confused:OMG, I'm sorry, but you are PISSING me off. I'm not answering that question. I posted it once in the thread before, and posted it AGAIN in this one. See what I mean about you not paying adequate attention to me?? :mad:

:(

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:28 PM
Yes, I have! Maybe I haven't listened to everything (which I pretty much have), but it doesn't mean I didn't read anything.I'm appalled. :( And it's "bulimia." Spell it right.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:30 PM
I think this is a situation of "I am fat, but I am really not."That's just a matter of distorted self-image. It's common amongst people with eating disorders. But what bothers me is that she's not listening. (At least not "all" the time.) :rolleyes: Lang- Why do you think I am sitting here typing this? To waste my time? No.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:32 PM
That's just a matter of distorted self-image. It's common amongst people with eating disorders. But what bothers me is that she's not listening. (At least not "all" the time.) :rolleyes: Lang- Why do you think I am sitting here typing this? To waste my time? No.

I'm sorry.....and I'm on something-fish.org right now.
And I'll read it.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:37 PM
:eek:

Listen. You have someone offering you a load of advice. How do you think she would have felt if she had someone to offer her help at the time when she started? She is trying to tell you her experience with this. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm sorry, but part of the reason I want this is not only cause my sisters called me fat and my friends are thing, but also because I want all my family and relatives to feel bad for me--sometimes I'm an outcast.

Again, I'm very sorry. Please forgive me. And really, I'll listen.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:39 PM
I'm on "This Child" on the site now.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:42 PM
I'm sorry, but part of the reason I want this is not only cause my sisters called me fat and my friends are thing, but also because I want all my family and relatives to feel bad for me--sometimes I'm an outcast.

Again, I'm very sorry. Please forgive me. And really, I'll listen.What you want is attention, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, of course, if you are deprived of it. My parents have never paid attention to me. I was never hugged. Never kissed. Never told I was loved. So I know how that feels.

However, in NO WAY am I condoning your actions. Because there MUST (and I repeat: MUST) be other ways to acquire it. You DON'T want people to feel sorry for you. What you want is people to feel FOR you. You may not see it NOW, but one day, you will. Find something you're good at- strive for it. You'll be impressed. Forget the weight. Accept yourself the way you are NOW. Nobody's perfect. Nobody CAN be perfect, because even what YOU think is perfect, may be imperfection to someone else. Scratch the opinions. Look at the facts.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:44 PM
I'm on "This Child" on the site now.Yeah, and the child died, didn't she?

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 01:52 PM
Oh, and for the record, I am sitting here now, with chest pains. It's HARD for me to breathe because of last night's and the night's before binge. My stomach is bloated, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were push UP against my rib cage, for goodness sake. It hurts for me to move. My eyes are tired. My face is pale. My head is light. I feel like fainting. I just pulled out a few strands of hair. I want to throw up. I woke up this morning and the first thing I did was weigh myself. I am now comtemplating whether or not I should EAT or not....... I am sitting here typing this post, and disregarding my studies. I am failing in many subjects, whilst I USED to be an A+ student. I have no friends, while I USED to be the most popular girl in school.

I am ruining my future, and life will NEVER be the same again.....

THAT, Lang, is the day of someone with an eating disorder. Is this what you really want? Is being THIN, for goodness sake WORTH all of this????? :mad:

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 01:58 PM
Yeah, and the child died, didn't she?

Yeah :(

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 02:00 PM
Oh, and for the record, I am sitting here now, with chest pains. It's HARD for me to breathe because of last night's and the night's before binge. My stomach is bloated, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were push UP against my rib cage, for goodness sake. It hurts for me to move. My eyes are tired. My face is pale. My head is light. I feel like fainting. I just pulled out a few strands of hair. I want to throw up. I woke up this morning and the first thing I did was weigh myself. I am now comtemplating whether or not I should EAT or not....... I am sitting here typing this post, and disregarding my studies. I am failing in many subjects, whilst I USED to be an A+ student. I have no friends, while I USED to be the most popular girl in school.

I am ruining my future, and life will NEVER be the same again.....

THAT, Lang, is the day of someone with an eating disorder. Is this what you really want? Is being THIN, for goodness sake WORTH of this????? :mad:

I'm so sorry. You can go rest right now if you want,don't let me hold you back.
I'm glad you're trying to help me. I hope you get better soon :(

And no, it's not worth it if it lasts so long.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 02:09 PM
And no, it's not worth it if it lasts so long.Glooooooooria! :clap:

It lasts.... get ready for this.... F O R E V E R. I have probably knocked off 10 years of my life because of this... and I did it ALL in less than a year. I can picture my grandchildren, lying besides my death bed, BAWLING, and asking me WHY, WHY, "Why grandma??" Why I couldn't have lived longer, and I would tell them, "Because I had an eating disorder." Sad, isn't it?? :(

This is how I feel EVERY DAY..... EVERY waking moment of my life. HOW is this a way to live??? Like many members have said, life is TOO short for this utter nonesense. Food was meant to keep you alive, and that is ALL food should be intended for.

I hope I have somehow changed your viewpoint on anorexia and bulimia. Do you know the effects of self-induced purging?? We were not made to vomit 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 days in a week.... it kills you. It works the heart. STARVING works the heart. Your doctor will undoubtely find out, too. So might as well get yourself out before you have worse things to deal with. Like... being HOSPITALIZED... missing school... losing friends.... being depressed... taking meds... being mocked. Oh, you're MUCHHHHHHHH better off just accepting yourself the way you are. Did I mention this was forever???

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 02:15 PM
Glooooooooria! :clap:

It lasts.... get ready for this.... F O R E V E R. I have probably knocked off 10 years of my life because of this... and I did it ALL in less than a year. I can picture my grandchildren, lying besides my death bed, BAWLING, and asking me WHY, WHY, "Why grandma??" Why I couldn't have lived longer, and I would tell them, "Because I had an eating disorder." Sad, isn't it?? :(

This is how I feel EVERY DAY..... EVERY waking moment of my life. HOW is this a way to live??? Like many members have said, life is TOO short for this utter nonesense. Food was meant to keep you alive, and that is ALL food should be intended for.

I hope I have somehow changed your viewpoint on anorexia and bulimia. Do you know the effects of self-induced purging?? We were not made to vomit 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 days in a week.... it kills you. It works the heart. STARVING works the heart. Your doctor will undoubtely find out, too. So might as well get yourself out before you have worse things to deal with. Like... being HOSPITALIZED... missing school... losing friends.... being depressed... taking meds... being mocked. Oh, you're MUCHHHHHHHH better off just accepting yourself the way you are. Did I mention this was forever???

That's terrible! I really feel bad for you....I'm glad you told me the dangers.
I just went through all your posts in this thread.....wow, why hadn't I really took time to read and THINK about it?

And can I ask you one quick question?

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 02:17 PM
Oh, one more thing... if you think for a second that I am "exggerating" I am NOT. ;)

Oh, and did I tell you I can barely eat solid foods now? Because my stomach is always so bloated???? Like... OMFG. :eek: All I can "eat" today is.... water, coffee, tea, soup...... holy SHiiT, what a meal huh? I can't eat even if I WANT TO. Right now, I am NOT physically capable of eating any more solids, because if I do, I KNOW I will land myself in the hospital, having my stomach pumped.

And I am 16 years old. I'm only 3 years older than you, Lang. Imagine in three years... you being like ME.... or you.. being DEAD.

And what's your question?

By the way, you don't need me to tell you these things. If you do some more research, you will find out even MORE reasons why this is so bad for you.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 02:29 PM
Oh, one more thing... if you think for a second that I am "exggerating" I am NOT. ;)

Oh, and did I tell you I can barely eat solid foods now? Because my stomach is always so bloated???? Like... OMFG. :eek: All I can "eat" today is.... water, coffee, tea, soup...... holy SHiiT, what a meal huh? I can't eat even if I WANT TO. Right now, I am NOT physically capable of eating any more solids, because if I do, I KNOW I will land myself in the hospital, having my stomach pumped.

And I am 16 years old. I'm only 3 years older than you, Lang. Imagine in three years... you being like ME.... or you.. being DEAD.

And what's your question?

By the way, you don't need me to tell you these things. If you do some more research, you will find out even MORE reasons why this is so bad for you.

Wow, that sucks :(
And you're young....I was guessing you were like in your 20's.

And I'm not allowed to do any more research....my dad caught me on something-fishy.org and he said that was stupid and that I'm not normal, and if I keep looking at sites like that again, he'll take my computer away. Isn't he mean????!!!!

Anyway, my question was about anorexious.
Well, you know if you starve yourself, your body eats up your muscles and you store fat? Well, than how do people get as skinny as sticks? :confused:
Or do you have to starve for months and months? Not that I'm planning to do that......

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 02:42 PM
Wow, that sucks :(
And you're young....I was guessing you were like in your 20's.

And I'm not allowed to do any more research....my dad caught me on something-fishy.org and he said that was stupid and that I'm not normal, and if I keep looking at sites like that again, he'll take my computer away. Isn't he mean????!!!!

Anyway, my question was about anorexious.
Well, you know if you starve yourself, your body eats up your muscles and you store fat? Well, than how do people get as skinny as sticks? :confused:
Or do you have to starve for months and months? Not that I'm planning to do that......
No, he's not being mean. He's just concern about you, is all. He worries you may be looking into PRO-ED sites, as opposed to Anti. He wants your mind off of ED's, no doubt.

And I think I'm pissed again. I've said explicitly that I was 16 once in this thread, and once on the other thread. Are you SURE you are reading the things I'm writing? :(

And please, please. It's "anorexia." Maybe I'm just anal about grammar, but it realllllllllly bothers me when people spell it wrong. It shows more ignorance. ;)

And why are you asking me this question? But okay, I'll answer it.

Anorexics become skinny as sticks because they keep restricting..... until they are maybe eating once a week or something. The body eats away your muscle...and when there's no muscle left, they eat away your fat, and when there's no fat left... your organs are going next. Prepare for death.

Anorexics KEEP doing it, and if they aren't helped, they die. And sometimes, even WITH help, they STILL die because their body is already too weak to fight anything off. Their immune system is destroyed. I have a friend, she was 78 pounds, 5'6". She's near death now... her kidneys have failed. Her heart rate is very low. She can't even go to the bathroom. She hasn't menustrated for 10 years. She's better off dead so she doesn't have to suffer anymore. :( And yes, she may be skinny to the bones, but this STILL isn't enough to stop her from wanting to starve herself. Why? Because anorexia is in her grasp, and she can't let go. So YOU, better let go... NOW... ASAP. Talk to school counselor, if you will. She will help you find ways to feel better about yourself. DO IT NOW.

JT
03-13-2005, 02:49 PM
Going to "become" a bitch? Think its already too late for that!!

The last thing this girl needs is anybody judging her right now. You don't know her history or anything else. Nor have you ever had an eating disorder so you're no Dr. Phil! She obviously made the post to put it out there. She's reaching out for help and advice and you're playing Omarosa. Obviously the "tough love" didn't work either since she felt the need to discuss this afterwards. She seems like a smart kid, who at this point, knows something's not right with her thinking. Give her a break o.k.?
It is true, we are the luckiest people on the face of the earth here in North America. Even the poorest person (unless maybe you're homeless) lives better than kings and queens did in Europe in past centuries. Central heat, central air, cleanliness, incredible selection of food. But the stupid media and society puts more pressure now on looks, popularity, and superficially living now more than any other time. Teenagers are going through so much these days and they're the most vunerable to this. Its easy for them to not truly appreciate and get caught up in issues. Older people might think they're trivial, but to a young person it seems like the end of the world. I wish I had an outlet like the internet to get advice when I was her age!!
Now, let's just hope she absorbs some of it and if we see these sort of posts years or even months from now, then I'd like to kick her ass and try the tough love next - but for now, let her express herself. You don't have to keep checking this thread if it bothers you.

First off, I'm a teenager. I know what it is like so don't even lecture me on the topic. My life is more dramatic than anyone would even imagine, but I keep living off of the motto: "To live each day, whatever life may bring, and you will have a love of life."

If none of us are Dr. Phil, what are she asking US for advice? She's asking US, because she wants OUR advice. If I'm not going to be all "it's OK, it's going to be all right, I understand, you just take your time" about it, too effing bad.

And you don't even know what kinds of disorders I have and have had. Woman, man, whatever you are, you don't even know me. You don't even know me well when it comes to internet terms. You have no idea what the hell I've been through. A year ago, I was thirteen years old and weighed close to 230 pounds. You didn't count on that, did you? Well a year later, I've lost around 35-45 pounds, and it wasn't from refusing to eat. I worked at it. I did exercises everyday, in my living room, on my bedroom floor. I didn't change my eating habits one bit.

And I consider a blatant insult when someone as skinny as Lang is complaining about being overweight. It would make a more emotionally-challenged person feel worse off than they really are, but luckily, I'm not that person. I have a head on my shoulders and I use it.

Wait until next year?! Feel free to report this post for what I am about to say next, but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO DO!?!?? Are you aware that at Christmas 1982, Karen Carpenter looked decently healthy (there's a picture attached), but by February 1983, she was DEAD. Not from other causes, but from complications caused by her anorexia nervosa. A difference of only three months made a huge difference, and I think that if you wait a year, worse could happen. Karen Carpenter ate HUGE meals for basically everyday of 1983, but that did not stop her from dying. She wanted to live so much, but it was just too late. She had an album coming up, she was getting divorced from her husband, ready to start dating again. It was just too late. I will not sit here and coddle someone who WANTed to suffer from this disease. It is just ridiculous and an insult to everyone who's ever died from it. It is just plain stupid and I'm not going to candy coat it to make her feel better.

And I'm not going to ignore this thread, because I don't turn a blind eye on people who OBVIOUSLY NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP. Anorexia is a MENTAL disease as well as physical, and to not take drastic measures, no matter how early in the stages one is, is the WORST thing you can do!

Ask Richard Carpenter. He thought his sister was on the road to recovery, but it was just too damn late, and because of it, the world lost a genuinely kind, sweet woman with an angelic voice. I was afraid that I was going to let my feelings for Ms. Carpenter echo out into this thread, but I don't care anymore.

Lang, go to LeadSister.com's Karen Carpenter timeline (http://www.leadsister.com/timeline/) and just read. If you want to start right with her anorexia, start with 1975.

And to anyone else, who wants to "wait a year," hear are some pictures just to let you know how bad it can get.

The first one is of Karen at Christmas time, on December 25, 1982.

The second is of her performing "This Masquerade" in 1980 on a TV special, note that she was only 30 at the time.

The last one is a photo comparison of Karen, the picture on the left is from 1981, and the one on the right is from the late 1960s.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 03:02 PM
Here's a big for my the Jae Tee. :)

:bighug:

Life can be hard, I know. And waiting DOES worsen the situation, yes. Which is why I am continuously STRESSING the fact that she should take action NOW.

Sigh.... Remember, Jae Tee, a little over a year ago, when we used to chat in chatrooms? Yap about Jennyanydots, and all those other fun things?? LOL. We were a nutcase. :) But, now, I'm just not up to it. Sorry. I don't even really chat with Justin, anymore, and he's my best buddy. :( I just need some time alone, to sort things out, and I hope you can give him that message for me.

A year ago, I may have been cured with a week or so of therapy. But NOW?? I'll need several years to undo everything, and even then NOTHING will be officially undo. I've still ruined my health, regardless. If only I had been warned like Lang is being warned now, maybe I would've headed down a better path in life. :( You are lucky, Lang. So save yourself.

JT
03-13-2005, 03:08 PM
It's fine, Jenny, I know what you mean. After sinking down to the lowest spot you can go, it takes forever and a day to rebuild yourself, but just keep remembering that with hard work and a clear outlook, you can pretty much do anything you try to do.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 05:18 PM
First off, I'm a teenager. I know what it is like so don't even lecture me on the topic. My life is more dramatic than anyone would even imagine, but I keep living off of the motto: "To live each day, whatever life may bring, and you will have a love of life."

If none of us are Dr. Phil, what are she asking US for advice? She's asking US, because she wants OUR advice. If I'm not going to be all "it's OK, it's going to be all right, I understand, you just take your time" about it, too effing bad.

And you don't even know what kinds of disorders I have and have had. Woman, man, whatever you are, you don't even know me. You don't even know me well when it comes to internet terms. You have no idea what the hell I've been through. A year ago, I was thirteen years old and weighed close to 230 pounds. You didn't count on that, did you? Well a year later, I've lost around 35-45 pounds, and it wasn't from refusing to eat. I worked at it. I did exercises everyday, in my living room, on my bedroom floor. I didn't change my eating habits one bit.

And I consider a blatant insult when someone as skinny as Lang is complaining about being overweight. It would make a more emotionally-challenged person feel worse off than they really are, but luckily, I'm not that person. I have a head on my shoulders and I use it.

Wait until next year?! Feel free to report this post for what I am about to say next, but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO DO!?!?? Are you aware that at Christmas 1982, Karen Carpenter looked decently healthy (there's a picture attached), but by February 1983, she was DEAD. Not from other causes, but from complications caused by her anorexia nervosa. A difference of only three months made a huge difference, and I think that if you wait a year, worse could happen. Karen Carpenter ate HUGE meals for basically everyday of 1983, but that did not stop her from dying. She wanted to live so much, but it was just too late. She had an album coming up, she was getting divorced from her husband, ready to start dating again. It was just too late. I will not sit here and coddle someone who WANTed to suffer from this disease. It is just ridiculous and an insult to everyone who's ever died from it. It is just plain stupid and I'm not going to candy coat it to make her feel better.

And I'm not going to ignore this thread, because I don't turn a blind eye on people who OBVIOUSLY NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP. Anorexia is a MENTAL disease as well as physical, and to not take drastic measures, no matter how early in the stages one is, is the WORST thing you can do!

Ask Richard Carpenter. He thought his sister was on the road to recovery, but it was just too damn late, and because of it, the world lost a genuinely kind, sweet woman with an angelic voice. I was afraid that I was going to let my feelings for Ms. Carpenter echo out into this thread, but I don't care anymore.

Lang, go to LeadSister.com's Karen Carpenter timeline (http://www.leadsister.com/timeline/) and just read. If you want to start right with her anorexia, start with 1975.

And to anyone else, who wants to "wait a year," hear are some pictures just to let you know how bad it can get.

The first one is of Karen at Christmas time, on December 25, 1982.

The second is of her performing "This Masquerade" in 1980 on a TV special, note that she was only 30 at the time.

The last one is a photo comparison of Karen, the picture on the left is from 1981, and the one on the right is from the late 1960s.

Wow, that's really sad :(

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 05:26 PM
JT -

I'm VERY aware that all you "guys" on here are teenagers and that you know each other much more than I do. I just happened to stumble across her thread by accident and it concerned me because I have been there and hoped I could offer some understanding, first-hand advice. Yes, I am an adult, but I am not here to judge anyone (if I were to judge anyone here, it would be your parents really). The teenage years are the best and the worst of your lives. God how I wish I could relive mine with the knowledge and especially confidence I finally have now. I just know how my parents would just say "Oh just snap out of it". I COULDN'T STAND THAT. I felt it was easier for them to say that than actually listen to me with patience. I hated them because they hadn't walked in my shoes or appeared to even care. That's all I'm saying - is that you've probably all heard something similar and I had hoped to offer more because as you must know, you can't just "snap out of this".
You ALL have forms of eating disorders and are at different stages. Yours appears (from the brief description you gave me) to be at the opposite end. You've found solice and comfort in food in the past and I commend you for being able to muster the will to lose some. You know yourself that your health is as much at risk as the others (heart disease, diabetes, joint disorders). I did NOT say that anyone here should wait a year to get help. I said it can take years to work through these problems (especially the longer you let them go). Transit Whiz (sorry - don't know your real names like you guys do) is in a real crisis state right now and frankly I think she should be checked into a hospital or recovery situation IMMEDIATELY. Lang Lang needs counselling as soon as possible.
Yes, I'm older than dirt (44!!!YIKES) and never was able to have children of my own (because of the eating disorders) so I'm not taking a parent's stand here - just offering some unjudgemental, unbiased advice from someone who has been through all the garbage you guys have. My posts have been long, but believe me, its just the tip of the iceberg of what's gone on - especially when I was younger. I didn't even know you could send private messages - all of you are welcome to discuss anything you want with me privately if you like but I think you should also seek out someone who knows you better in person. I'm sure I would have not been nearly as patient either if I were younger, but I know that didn't work for me, so I'm trying it my way here. Its just some of the comments sounded harsh, but I know its out of frustration.
Every single one of you have something to offer this world and should be valued just like Karen Carpenter did. This disease has nothing to with intelligence or looks (even Princess Diana couldn't escape it).
I agree with Transit too - do as much research on this as you can. The more you know about it, the more it will make you aware of what could be the underlying causes to it. But your best chances for recovery are getting professional help as soon as you possibly can. Hope this helps clarify

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 05:33 PM
JT -

I'm VERY aware that all you "guys" on here are teenagers and that you know each other much more than I do. I just happened to stumble across her thread by accident and it concerned me because I have been there and hoped I could offer some understanding, first-hand advice. Yes, I am an adult, but I am not here to judge anyone (if I were to judge anyone here, it would be your parents really). The teenage years are the best and the worst of your lives. God how I wish I could relive mine with the knowledge and especially confidence I finally have now. I just know how my parents would just say "Oh just snap out of it". I COULDN'T STAND THAT. I felt it was easier for them to say that than actually listen to me with patience. I hated them because they hadn't walked in my shoes or appeared to even care. That's all I'm saying - is that you've probably all heard something similar and I had hoped to offer more because as you must know, you can't just "snap out of this".
You ALL have forms of eating disorders and are at different stages. Yours appears (from the brief description you gave me) to be at the opposite end. You've found solice and comfort in food in the past and I commend you for being able to muster the will to lose some. You know yourself that your health is as much at risk as the others (heart disease, diabetes, joint disorders). I did NOT say that anyone here should wait a year to get help. I said it can take years to work through these problems (especially the longer you let them go). Transit Whiz (sorry - don't know your real names like you guys do) is in a real crisis state right now and frankly I think she should be checked into a hospital or recovery situation IMMEDIATELY. Lang Lang needs counselling as soon as possible.
Yes, I'm older than dirt (44!!!YIKES) and never was able to have children of my own (because of the eating disorders) so I'm not taking a parent's stand here - just offering some unjudgemental, unbiased advice from someone who has been through all the garbage you guys have. My posts have been long, but believe me, its just the tip of the iceberg of what's gone on - especially when I was younger. I didn't even know you could send private messages - all of you are welcome to discuss anything you want with me privately if you like but I think you should also seek out someone who knows you better in person. I'm sure I would have not been nearly as patient either if I were younger, but I know that didn't work for me, so I'm trying it my way here. Its just some of the comments sounded harsh, but I know its out of frustration.
Every single one of you have something to offer this world and should be valued just like Karen Carpenter did. This disease has nothing to with intelligence or looks (even Princess Diana couldn't escape it).
I agree with Transit too - do as much research on this as you can. The more you know about it, the more it will make you aware of what could be the underlying causes to it. But your best chances for recovery are getting professional help as soon as you possibly can. Hope this helps clarify

I'm sorry about all that :( And thanks for the advice.
And I can't do any research.....my Dad caught me and said I can't do that or I'll get my computer taken away. He thinks it's stupid. Yeah, maybe I should just snap out of it and know the dangers and stop thinking about it.


btw-you're the same age as my Mom ;)

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 05:41 PM
FRankly, I wish I could just get all of you in a room and hug and hold you and let you cry as long as you need to and just sit a listen to you - REALLY listen.

Transit Whiz - why aren't you heeding your own advice here? You're so much further into this and you know what's going to happen? I know deep down you do love yourself as it keeps you from actually going through with suicide, but you know too, that what you're doing is a very slow form of suicide. PLEASE - I implore you to see somebody about this TOMORROW while our conversations are fresh in your head. Get the ball rolling.
I'm not sure (and I will do some research on this for you) but I think the bloating, gas and stomach cramps (and especially the difficulty breathing) are vital warning signs that your body and organs are beginning to shut down. THis is the stage I was at when I finally got moving on it. You must know this in your heart too. There also could be extensive damage to your esophagus (throat) and teeth from the frequent vomiting. STomach acid destroys them. I damaged my teeth so badly that I'm into unbelievable dental bills and trouble (lost three teeth entirely, have had 7 root canals so far and 8 abcesses - the last one almost went to my brain and need extensive surgery on my gums and maybe even sinuses to repair costing over $15,000)!!!!

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 05:52 PM
I'm sorry about all that :( And thanks for the advice.
And I can't do any research.....my Dad caught me and said I can't do that or I'll get my computer taken away. He thinks it's stupid. Yeah, maybe I should just snap out of it and know the dangers and stop thinking about it.


btw-you're the same age as my Mom ;)


I kinda thought I might be the age of your parents and that's why I hope I can help here - I'm seeing this from both angles.
All I can figure is that today, parents are busier than ever with their jobs, pay the bills and parenting. They're tired and don't understand always.
You actually might be able to shut this off soon and on your own - sounds like you're paying more attention and listening - I'm SO glad - I knew you were a smart kid and I've got your back! :thanx:
I'm going to send you a reply shortly to your private message Lang Lang.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 05:59 PM
FRankly, I wish I could just get all of you in a room and hug and hold you and let you cry as long as you need to and just sit a listen to you - REALLY listen.

Transit Whiz - why aren't you heeding your own advice here? You're so much further into this and you know what's going to happen? I know deep down you do love yourself as it keeps you from actually going through with suicide, but you know too, that what you're doing is a very slow form of suicide. PLEASE - I implore you to see somebody about this TOMORROW while our conversations are fresh in your head. Get the ball rolling.
I'm not sure (and I will do some research on this for you) but I think the bloating, gas and stomach cramps (and especially the difficulty breathing) are vital warning signs that your body and organs are beginning to shut down. THis is the stage I was at when I finally got moving on it. You must know this in your heart too. There also could be extensive damage to your esophagus (throat) and teeth from the frequent vomiting. STomach acid destroys them. I damaged my teeth so badly that I'm into unbelievable dental bills and trouble (lost three teeth entirely, have had 7 root canals so far and 8 abcesses - the last one almost went to my brain and need extensive surgery on my gums and maybe even sinuses to repair costing over $15,000)!!!!I doubt my body/organs are shutting down. I think my heart is just overworked. And there's waaaay too much fat around the area of my stomach. It's overstretched from bingeing. :(

And I am well aware of the effects of vomitting, which is why I try to do it as little as possible. I have braces, too, so.... I have to be careful, else my dentist will find out.

Tomorrow I have a half-day, meaning I technically CAN meet up with my teacher.... but I'm hesistant. I feel like I'm using her.. and I dont know.. it's akward to just show up at her door all the time. :(

Today, I had 2 cups of black coffee, and a diet pepsi. 0 calories. And I'm not even hungry, and I MEAN it. I couldn't eat even if I wanted to. My stomach's not physically capable of storing any more food. :(

Brent88
03-13-2005, 06:01 PM
Wow, that sucks :(
And you're young....I was guessing you were like in your 20's.

And I'm not allowed to do any more research....my dad caught me on something-fishy.org and he said that was stupid and that I'm not normal, and if I keep looking at sites like that again, he'll take my computer away. Isn't he mean????!!!!

No he's not... he's protecting you. There are a LOT of people who abuse the internet and try to talk to young kids to meet them and kidnap them and you know the rest(they are on the news). My dad a couple of years ago got really worried because I was posting on messageboards, he was afraid people on there weren't who they were saying they were.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 06:44 PM
I doubt my body/organs are shutting down. I think my heart is just overworked. And there's waaaay too much fat around the area of my stomach. It's overstretched from bingeing. :(

And I am well aware of the effects of vomitting, which is why I try to do it as little as possible. I have braces, too, so.... I have to be careful, else my dentist will find out.

Tomorrow I have a half-day, meaning I technically CAN meet up with my teacher.... but I'm hesistant. I feel like I'm using her.. and I dont know.. it's akward to just show up at her door all the time. :(

Today, I had 2 cups of black coffee, and a diet pepsi. 0 calories. And I'm not even hungry, and I MEAN it. I couldn't eat even if I wanted to. My stomach's not physically capable of storing any more food. :(

You just said it - your heart is being overworked!! Also, you're doing exactly what I used to do - take fluids - and especially ones that are loaded with caffeine (not good on the nerves are they?!) I think we do that because the caffeine "Keeps us going". Yeah, I knew you knew about the teeth damage -as putting that out there for other people too though. (And I HOPE your dentist finds out - maybe he/she will be the one that insists on help for you - somebody should be!!)

O.k. - now tomorrow - sounds like you're making up excuses again - perfect opportunity with a half day free. I just can't figure out why this teacher hasn't already done something for you. You mention about showing up at her door all the time. How often have you talked to her about this? How long has it been since you first told her? You say you feel "like you're using her" - or do you think that what's she's thinking? Again, this is all part of the low self esteem part of this horrible disease. You're thinking that she thinks you're not worthy of her time - I'm sure she doesn't think that at all (and if she does, she shouldn't be a teacher)! Is she the only one who you feel you can go to? Is there ANYBODY else? (I'm not being a bitch here - but from reading both yours and LangLang's posts, you both have been making excuses). You got frustrated with her not listening or thoroughly reading, yet you know how much you need professional help and even where to start to get it, but "I'm hesitant". "Its awkward showing up at her door" - its going to be a lot more awkward when the whole school hears that you've collasped or gotten very ill and are in forced ED treatment! This way you can at least do it with some amount of control over it yourself. Start by getting honest with yourself. Then others. Yeah, I've heard it all before (from my own mouth). I'm really not hungry - seriously (ah, but what about the next hour and next hour when its still knawing at you). I love the feeling of being hungry (that was my personal favorite) and a million others.
Honestly, I never really binged - just starved and purged (laxatives) so I don't know enough about the bingeing to offer you good advice (and I'd hate to give something that would be more damaging). It sure doesn't sound good though - what you're poor body must be going through (not to mention your mind). Please TW - you have even more cross-over issues than I did - you need IMMEDIATE help - please love yourself enough - just enough - to make the first move. Stop keeping The Secret. I truly care!

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 06:57 PM
No he's not... he's protecting you. There are a LOT of people who abuse the internet and try to talk to young kids to meet them and kidnap them and you know the rest(they are on the news). My dad a couple of years ago got really worried because I was posting on messageboards, he was afraid people on there weren't who they were saying they were.

Yeah, that's very true too Brent88 - you guys have to be very careful of predators and bad sites that glorify all kinds of crap.

Even my husband said over my shoulder today that I didn't know who I was talking to either - and he IS right! Luckily this board is on the up and up (and I've been on the up and up - I'm a 44 yr old woman who lives in Toronto Canada, with 5 cats, 2 dogs and my overworked husband)!! But you never know - don't ever agree to meet anyone in person over the internet (unless maybe your parents are present). If the content of people's posts ever makes you feel uncomfortable, or if you think they've crossed the line, report them or just drop communication immediately.

If your parents do happen to see you looking at certain sites and are concerned, let them see that its just chat and that there is nothing going on. They're just concerned for your safety and well-being and they should be - that's good parenting!

I think her dad might have seen something that made him think she was being encouraged and/or taught how to starve herself (i.e. pics of Karen Carpenter). All you need to do is say that it's the opposite - you're actually researching what the effects are of this thing and hoping to scare some sense into yourself! He may understand better then and it can open up a good discussion! Give your parents the benefit of a doubt and a chance. If that doesn't work, then just be very careful yourselves! Even I don't give out information to strangers - nobody should these days!

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 07:02 PM
I actually don't care too much for caffeine. It's the fact that they're 0 calories that I drink it. :blush:

My teacher said she would email me when she has found someone, but that was the first of March. I feel like I'm rushing her or something by seeing her over and over again. I've spoken to her twice about this, and another time in a 5-page letter. I first told her Feb 27th. And yes, she is the only person I feel I can go to.

And I agree, subconsiously, I must be making SOME form of excuse for not going. But on the other hand, I DO feel as if I am a bother to her, and that she'll start finding me annoying if I see her too often. And I had her as a teacher 1998-1999... so it was a while ago. It's weird to just pop out of no where and to share with her all these things, you know? But I've told her many things about my ED already (in that letter). So, the secret's out.

BTW, I am SERIOUSLY not hungry LOL. I have no reason to lie here. ;)

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 07:37 PM
I actually don't care too much for caffeine. It's the fact that they're 0 calories that I drink it. :blush:

My teacher said she would email me when she has found someone, but that was the first of March. I feel like I'm rushing her or something by seeing her over and over again. I've spoken to her twice about this, and another time in a 5-page letter. I first told her Feb 27th. And yes, she is the only person I feel I can go to.

And I agree, subconsiously, I must be making SOME form of excuse for not going. But on the other hand, I DO feel as if I am a bother to her, and that she'll start finding me annoying if I see her too often. And I had her as a teacher 1998-1999... so it was a while ago. It's weird to just pop out of no where and to share with her all these things, you know? But I've told her many things about my ED already (in that letter). So, the secret's out.

BTW, I am SERIOUSLY not hungry LOL. I have no reason to lie here. ;)

Not that I'm encouraging this, but geez, if its the zero calories that are the issue, drink water!!! At least that will help keep you hydrated and is a LOT better for you than what coffee or cola would be - especially when you're not eating. You must be shaking like a leaf and it plays havoc on your nerves (which is the last thing you need right now)!! tsk! tsk! ;)

O.k. - guess it hasn't been that long that she's taken, but isn't March break next week? That's going to delay it all the longer. Hmmmm - no aunt, uncle or anybody? That sucks. Don't be embarrassed about going to her (and if you have to, repeatedly). I know if I were her, and especially with the length of time since you were her student, I feel great if a former student came to me for help. It would show me that I must have had some impact on them and that's an honor. That's what the whole teaching profession should be about! That's why they became teachers in the first place (it sure ain't for the money or glamor)!! haha :lol:

Not hungry huh? Well, as you know, nobody can force ya, but if you do, solid food is not going hurt you at all. Grab a soft boiled egg! Its usually fairly easy to get down, is easy on a stomach that's being abused and is a great source of protein with low calories! K - that's all I ask!! :notworthy

Chin up!

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 08:13 PM
Good ol' H2O, ayy? That stuff makes me gag, LOL. It's not much of a "treat" to drink water, you know? Ha!

And nope, I'm not shaking at ALL, I'm not even cold, LOL. My stomach isn't growling either. I think I still have some undigested food in me from yesterday and the day before. (I binged on approx 8,000 cals. :eek: )

I dont have a break this month. :( But its seldom I get a half day. The next half-day would be in April. So delays, delays, delays... Tomorrow's the perfect day... UGHHHHHH. I will have to see..

And yes, "embarrassed" is certainly the correct word to use! Most definitely. :( And I'm really not hungry. I think I will just not eat today. Wait till tomorrow or until my stomach starts to growl LOL. Unless, of course my parents bring home something good to eat... then I'd indulge. Heh. :D Tomorrow's my weigh-in day, I'm scared!!

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 08:32 PM
Wow, I just got home from Youth Group and I had two pages to catch up on.

G-Force Glockstar
03-13-2005, 08:35 PM
No he's not... he's protecting you. There are a LOT of people who abuse the internet and try to talk to young kids to meet them and kidnap them and you know the rest(they are on the news). My dad a couple of years ago got really worried because I was posting on messageboards, he was afraid people on there weren't who they were saying they were.

Yeah, that's true. There really are some people out there that try to get kids and you know kidnap them. But sometimes parents really do overreact.
Like when is was 11 (and sometimes even 12), my parents would go CRAZY if they knew I was talking to a stranger (online or on a message board). But now they worry a little, but not as much because I'm older and I guess they know I'd never do anything really bad (like give out full name, address, ect...).
The worst thing I ever did was tell someone online my phone number......my parents went CRAZY, but obviously nothing happened.
I guess it's normal, because all parents want their kids to be safe.


Sorry, I kinda got offtopic there.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Yeah, that's true. There really are some people out there that try to get kids and you know kidnap them. But sometimes parents really do overreact.
Like when is was 11 (and sometimes even 12), my parents would go CRAZY if they knew I was talking to a stranger (online or on a message board). But now they worry a little, but not as much because I'm older and I guess they know I'd never do anything really bad (like give out full name, address, ect...).
The worst thing I ever did was tell someone online my phone number......my parents went CRAZY, but obviously nothing happened.
I guess it's normal, because all parents want their kids to be safe.


Sorry, I kinda got offtopic there.I dont think your parents overract, at ALL. Goes to show you how much they care about you and love you ever so dearly. :) Imagine how much they'll worry if you became anorexic. :eek: Believe me, you'll thank them one day.

You're lucky to have the parents you do. I've given away my address to numerous people before, as early as age 12. Within that same time frame, I stayed out until midnight sometimes. I was ONLY 12. But since they never paid too much attention to me, I never paid much attention to my own safety, either. I'd rather have parents making sure I was SAFE, than have parents who don't care at all.

Bottom line? You should be grateful because there are parents out there who are FAR worse than the parents you have.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 09:18 PM
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Steve M.
03-13-2005, 09:20 PM
How did this turn into a thirteen-page thread?? :eek:

Hollow
03-13-2005, 09:52 PM
How did this turn into a thirteen-page thread?? :eek:
not wanting to eat something -> dieting -> anorexia. these long posts aren't about getting sent to bed early for not eating pizza.

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 09:54 PM
I know you don't, but you're really not giving advice - its mean spirited, and knowing what she's feeling, I know its actually the worst thing she needs right now. You guys have no idea what you could be doing to her by what you're saying - seriously! I know you're kidding, and I used to get the same thing, but it would piss me off, so instead of getting mad at the people who bugged me, I internalized it and starved myself all the more. I know this sounds f&$*ed up to most guys - but this runs WAY deeper than girls "wanting to look thin".
Actually, I know if anything, you're trying to get the point across that guys probably aren't nearly as critical as she thinks and they aren't going to want to date a chick that's built like a telephone pole - right? Hell - if you want that - you could just date another guy (LOL - but that's a whole other thread right?)
I know you're joking, and that's fine, but also just balance it out a bit with something half decent, like, "but seriously, don't have to be so critical". Ya know, if anything, it probably would be a real help to get some input and feedback from a guy! Maybe how Dr. Phil started and look at the coin he's making today!!!!
Sincerely,
Ms. Never-said-I-was-perfect - and I wouldn't want to be - its not interesting! :D

A lot of us had already given her advice. She acted like she didn't want to listen to it. I hope she does listen to you.

dawsongirl
03-13-2005, 09:57 PM
i know none of you mean any harm but you'd be surprised how far a joke about it, and especially scolding them about their problems can go. mackenzie has made it clear how emotionally sensitive she is. when i get made fun of for being suicidal and depressed or told to get over it and stop feeling sorry for muself (which hasn't been recently, it was mostly last year) or whatever it wiped out even more of the little self esteem i had and made me want to kill myself even more just to show them what they've done and make them feel guilty for the rest of their lives. i would talk more and more about how worthless i am to the world, cut my wrists and make it deeper and more visible, basically present my problems more intensely. and i didn't fully realize it at the time but i only did that as a cry for help, just to hint to everyone to stop joking about it and how close i was to ending my life.

just so i don't look like a miserable cranky bitch here is a picture of captain mcallister moments away from sneezing. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?s=&postid=2250237 goodnight fools.

I used to get the same thing with my anxiety. I understand all that. But I just guess...oh never mind. It'd just piss someone off.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 10:12 PM
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I dunno - even with the cover story, dontchya think they're going to wonder why it was sitting at the front door?

They've GOT to know something's going on - if not, I feel so bad for you - it does show that they're not taking much interest in parenting. OMG - this reminds me so much of when I was your age too - couldn't believe what I could get away with - you scratch your head wondering if they're totally blind? Just when you think they just don't care, they throw you another curve ball by saying or doing something that lets you know that somewhere they do. Too freakin' confusing.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 10:14 PM
not wanting to eat something -> dieting -> anorexia. these long posts aren't about getting sent to bed early for not eating pizza.

Cuz that was just the initial post - didn't take long to realize that it goes at lot deeper than that. Got to read between Lang Lang's line. If you've been there, ya know.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 10:15 PM
A lot of us had already given her advice. She acted like she didn't want to listen to it. I hope she does listen to you.

:wave:

Thx - giving it my best shot!! ;)

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 10:23 PM
I dunno - even with the cover story, dontchya think they're going to wonder why it was sitting at the front door?

They've GOT to know something's going on - if not, I feel so bad for you - it does show that they're not taking much interest in parenting. OMG - this reminds me so much of when I was your age too - couldn't believe what I could get away with - you scratch your head wondering if they're totally blind? Just when you think they just don't care, they throw you another curve ball by saying or doing something that lets you know that somewhere they do. Too freakin' confusing.Nope. NO clue whatsoever. I hide it VERY well.. I always eat full/normal dinners in front of their faces. I eat full/normal lunches at school, too! So nobody has a clue... not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing LOL. :( When I told my teacher, she couldnt believe it either... because I "look" healthy. :rolleyes:

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 10:24 PM
I used to get the same thing with my anxiety. I understand all that. But I just guess...oh never mind. It'd just piss someone off.

I'm thinkin' you might mean me, and if so, hey - no problem - that's cool.

Everyone's entitled to some input and their opinion here. (All I was meaning is to try to keep it as constructive as possible and not take personal shots - even tho you might feel like you're repeating yourself sometimes).

Your take on this (especially if you're a guy) would be interesting and especially if you've suffered from anxiety, depression or suicidal thoughts since you never know what might help somebody. I encourage you to have your say. (If you didn't mean me, then as Gilda Radner would say, "Never mind"!!!) :lol:

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 10:31 PM
Nope. NO clue whatsoever. I hide it VERY well.. I always eat full/normal dinners in front of their faces. I eat full/normal lunches at school, too! So nobody has a clue... not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing LOL. :( When I told my teacher, she couldnt believe it either... because I "look" healthy. :rolleyes:


Aaah o.k. - that explains why she doesn't seem to be in a rush to contact someone for you. I don't think she's dealt with or researched this topic enough to know (which to me, these days every teacher should to some degree because its happening to so many out there - just like molestation - 1 in 4 at some point in their lives - its rampant)!

I would do the "food dance" on the plate - moving it around - sometimes actually hiding it (don't ask!!!!). The best was either - o.k. I ate already at so and so's or something like that.

This is why this thing is so secretative and deceiving - again, why some can get away with it for years like Karen Carpenter before people actually get it. Scary sh&t.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-13-2005, 10:32 PM
10:32 pm... okay, NOW my hunger's starting to kick in, LOL. But the day's almost over... so I dont think I will eat.. until tomorrow... after school. That'll make 38 hours. :eek:

And I think I will see my teacher tomorrow. I need serious help... I really do. :(

BTW, I DON'T want my parents to find out, which is why I don't pick my food. I'm gonna do this on my own.

And yeah, I look surprinsingly healthy... maybe its a gift. Wanna see a pic? LOL.

Pus$y Galore
03-13-2005, 10:38 PM
10:32 pm... okay, NOW my hunger's starting to kick in, LOL. But the day's almost over... so I dont think I will eat.. until tomorrow... after school. That'll make 38 hours. :eek:

And I think I will see my teacher tomorrow. I need serious help... I really do. :(


:lol: :lol: I TOLD you hunger would kick in on ya!!! Not easy falling asleep though - wish you had that damn egg Girl!! Oh well, not gonna lecture - just suggest. Think about it in the morning though will ya? Make tomorrow THE day - I'm sooooooo glad you decided to see her again - trust me on this one - and explain more about how even though you might look fine on the outside, you're screaming on the inside. Stress it - honestly, if I were a teacher, I'd be honored to know a student (former or current) had the faith to confide in me. You'll make both your days!! Hey - make it like a birth - start with that egg and then see the teach!

Cool - power to you! Don't look back or cower now - you're on the right track and if I could do it - you certainly can!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 04:37 AM
:lol: :lol: I TOLD you hunger would kick in on ya!!! Not easy falling asleep though - wish you had that damn egg Girl!! Oh well, not gonna lecture - just suggest. Think about it in the morning though will ya? Make tomorrow THE day - I'm sooooooo glad you decided to see her again - trust me on this one - and explain more about how even though you might look fine on the outside, you're screaming on the inside. Stress it - honestly, if I were a teacher, I'd be honored to know a student (former or current) had the faith to confide in me. You'll make both your days!! Hey - make it like a birth - start with that egg and then see the teach!

Cool - power to you! Don't look back or cower now - you're on the right track and if I could do it - you certainly can!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:Oh you've got THAT right!!! It's 4:33am here... I have school in several hours and I can't seem to fall asleep even tho I am DEAD tired. :eek: I changed my mind, and will be eating a banana at 6am. I'm gonna "die" if I fast any longer, LOL. :rolleyes: And I'll make my best effort to see her today - promise. I just need to find the courage to within the next 10 hrs or so. ;) I'd be tired, tho, that's for sure. *yawns* Oh,and I got your private message- the pic's attached, LOL. See? I'm not even skinny!!! Is it any wonder people havent noticed? :rolleyes:

//Note: Pic will be detached in < 24 hrs. ;)

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 07:58 AM
Oh you've got THAT right!!! It's 4:33am here... I have school in several hours and I can't seem to fall asleep even tho I am DEAD tired. :eek: I changed my mind, and will be eating a banana at 6am. I'm gonna "die" if I fast any longer, LOL. :rolleyes: And I'll make my best effort to see her today - promise. I just need to find the courage to within the next 10 hrs or so. ;) I'd be tired, tho, that's for sure. *yawns* Oh,and I got your private message- the pic's attached, LOL. See? I'm not even skinny!!! Is it any wonder people havent noticed? :rolleyes:

//Note: Pic will be detached in < 24 hrs. ;)

Geez, I feel horrible that you're up at that hour with some school today, but it doesn't surprise me with the fluids you had an no solids yesterday. That, and your conscious is what isn't letting you sleep. I hope you did eat that banana (actually, they're one of the perfect foods for you so it was a great choice). Please, keep the energy going behind you to see your teacher. Its a beautiful, sunny morning - a perfect sign. And get this piece of irony - as I scrolled down and your pic appeared, my husband was walking by and out of the blue said, boy does that girl look skinny!!! And he's usually fairly critical of weight, so it proved my point that although you don't look like a really advanced "case", you certainly DO NOT look like you have any excess fat on you. If anything, I would say you look about the same size as the Olsen twins - honestly. Now do you think either of them look fat? Of course not! And I sure don't see any "huge" stomach. If you feel pressure on your ribs, its probably because your stomach has shrunk so much, that a regular meal (which you probably consider a binge) is going to stretch it and make it feel like its "huge".
Frankly, objectively and honestly Whiz - you look great (on the outside of course). I know the turmoil inside though and that's the part you need to fix - and as soon as you can before much more damage is done. You know yourself that you can turn this around and I know you want to. Please - keep the courage up to see your teacher. I don't want to hear tonight that you were "too tired" - just another friggin' excuse! :bash:

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Hope u feel better :(

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 04:07 PM
You look very, very pretty. ;)


She does doesn't she - a very nice, petite figure - kinda like a ballerina. The hair and skin remind me of Jennifer Lopez, but she's thinner than Jennifer is (and millions of girls and women envy Jennifer's figure).

Listen to us Whiz!!!

Kay Scarpetta
03-14-2005, 04:09 PM
See? I'm not even skinny!!!

CHENNNNNNNNNY! You're skin and bones! Eat some meat! :hug:

Well actually, eat tofu meat. Don't eat cows :snob:

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 04:10 PM
Hope u feel better :(


Grandparents huh? Sounds like someone's gonna be spoiled - have fun!!

(And if you think the babysitter made you eat, you ain't seen nothing with Grandparents - they LIVE for that)!!! :lol:

Enjoy yourself - forget your problems for a while and rest up - Spring's coming!!! party:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 04:11 PM
*She blinks* Is it REALLY 4pm?? *yawns* Feels like I haven't slept in days!! BTW, I think I may have insomnia, too, haha. I've gone a little over 38 hours without sleep before. :eek: I do awful, awful things to my body. :(

I think the reason why I couldnt sleep was because I kept worrying about my fast. I had a feeling I was gonna die on my bed or something. :eek: I broke it after 28.5 hours. And for the last 38 hours, all I've had was a banana and a tuna sandwich. :(

And oh how ironic what your husband said! I got a kick out of that. :D And thanks for all your compliments (and Jonathan's too), but I just can't see myself like that sorry. I think I am fat, and I being the MOST sincere when I say this. And quite the opposite RE my stomach, actually. It is OVERstretched, if anything. I am a binge eater, remember? And I restrict to compensate. My stomach IS huge, you just can't see it in the picture, but trust me, it is. It's 32.5 inches...... but I am only 5'1". Doesn't quite fit, ayy? :eek:

And I saw my teacher today. But she had a meeting, so we spoke for 10 seconds, IF that. She asked how I was. I said "okay." And then she told me she had to rush to the bathroom before her meeting began. Oh well. She said to visit next week, but I have a normal schedule all of next week, so that's not possible. :( I guess you've already figured out that it's a long commute from my current school to my elementary school, and by the time I get there, all the teachers would've already left...

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 04:15 PM
Omg... you guys are making me blush!!! :blush:

All of you... are so unbelievably sweet. Makes me want to cry. :crying: I've gotten more compliments from you all in 5 minutes than I've EVER had in the physical life. Here, all everyone has to say is how "bad" I am... or how worthless I am. :( But you guys make me feel ultra-special!!!

Lang: Enjoy your time at your grandparents! Forget about all this food stuff, okay? ;) I wouldnt be telling you these things unless it was in your own best interest. I have no reason to lie. :)

Karli: Hey! Since when did YOU start calling me Chenny, too? ;) And tofu meat....? What's that? LOL.

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 04:58 PM
You are ultra special. And ultra beautiful. I bet some of my friends would agree with me in saying you are one of the prettiest girls we have ever saw.

Jonathan - just for interests sake? Are you a guy?

x3 Taylor x3
03-14-2005, 04:58 PM
Aw, this is so cute.

Hollow
03-14-2005, 05:04 PM
Jonathan - just for interests sake? Are you a guy?
:lol: my god, you can't even see her face! i would be scared if i were her. though i've seen other pictures of her, and she certainly is pretty. there's nothing wrong with how she looks.

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 05:13 PM
:lol: my god, you can't even see her face! i would be scared if i were her. though i've seen other pictures of her, and she certainly is pretty. there's nothing wrong with how she looks.


You don't need to see her full face to tell how beautiful she is. She appears to be a real Latino beauty to me.

I'm GLAD she made sure she covered her face for security sake - she should NEVER show her full picture - no kid should on the net - very dangerous!

We can still get a good idea. DEFINITELY nothing wrong with her looks - we just need to convince her of that. I think its the people around her that are being mean that severely need help!! Don't you guys?

EmoJoe
03-14-2005, 05:42 PM
This thread has gone from not eating something to dieting to anorexia to flirting with other board members... :shocked

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 05:50 PM
This thread has gone from not eating something to dieting to anorexia to flirting with other board members... :shocked


I, for one am not flirting - just encouraging her. If you read each (or most) posts you'll see that she has an awful image of herself. Needs some objective people to tell her the truth. That's all. :D

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 06:12 PM
Quencherita: Yes, you are very pretty. And thin! :) Thanks again :wave:

Tripperfan: haha yeah, Grandparents really spoil don't they? :lol:
I'll defintly eat, but I'll try to be careful, though.

Moroon5'd: :lol: Not really flirting.....just giving out complaments (yeah i suck at spelling, don't i??).

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 06:13 PM
Isn't it hard when you have like 2 to 3 pages to catch up on, and then reply to a few posts? lol.....that's why I just did what did on the above post :lol:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 06:17 PM
Whoah. LOL. :eek: Whilst I appreciate your compliments, you guys haven't even seen my face!! I could be a cyclops for all you know! ;) And I've shown my face here before. But now with my ED disclosed, and my username changed, I won't be doing it anymore.... I don't think. Unless I get really brave. Maybe "later." ;)

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 06:19 PM
Whoah. LOL. :eek: Whilst I appreciate your compliments, you guys haven't even seen my face!! I could be a cyclops for all you know! ;) And I've shown my face here before. But now with my ED disclosed, and my username changed, I won't be doing it anymore.... I don't think. Unless I get really brave. Maybe "later." ;)

I could never show my picture online.....I guess I'm just a scardy cat :lol:
Even if my face wasn't showing, I'd be a little freaked up.

My parents would have a fit if they knew I put a pic of myself online.

MsOrange
03-14-2005, 06:21 PM
I, for one am not flirting - just encouraging her. If you read each (or most) posts you'll see that she has an awful image of herself. Needs some objective people to tell her the truth. That's all. :D
hey-flirtings cool.. dont' be ashamed!

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 06:23 PM
I could never show my picture online.....I guess I'm just a scardy cat :lol:
Even if my face wasn't showing, I'd be a little freaked up.

My parents would have a fit if they knew I put a pic of myself online.And they SHOULD be. That's GOOD parenting!! As for me? I've been raised up like shiit, so it doesn't matter if I show my face or not. However, now my main concern is remaining anonymous. Call me paranoid, but I can't risk someone who I know in the physical life stumbling on here, seeing my picture, recognizing me, and then finding out about my ED. ;)

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 06:26 PM
And they SHOULD be. That's GOOD parenting!! As for me? I've been raised up like shiit, so it doesn't matter if I show my face or not. However, now my main concern is remaining anonymous. Call me paranoid, but I can't risk someone who I know in the physical life stumbling on here, seeing my picture, recognizing me, and then finding out about my ED. ;)

I'm sorry about that :(

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 06:53 PM
Isn't it hard when you have like 2 to 3 pages to catch up on, and then reply to a few posts? lol.....that's why I just did what did on the above post :lol:


:lol:

I know! And I'm all messed up on what posts and pm's I've answered and which ones I still have to get too!

See what you started Lana!!!! :lol:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 07:02 PM
:lol:

I know! And I'm all messed up on what posts and pm's I've answered and which ones I still have to get too!

See what you started Lana!!!! :lol:
You owe me! LOL! :lol: But I owe you PM's, so we're even. :p

But can I ask something? I'd perfer not to get PM's, because I don't always refer to them. Hope you don't mind. :)

EmoJoe
03-14-2005, 07:13 PM
Moroon5'd:
Maroon5'd :lol:

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 07:55 PM
:lol:

I know! And I'm all messed up on what posts and pm's I've answered and which ones I still have to get too!

See what you started Lana!!!! :lol:

:lol:

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 07:56 PM
Maroon5'd :lol:

What? :confused:
or are you just laughing because I should have just called you Joe? :lol:

MsOrange
03-14-2005, 08:15 PM
:shocked

I think you are off. It's not flirting, it's called encouragement.
I think you're off. It's called joking...

[minding my own buisness] :) [/minding my own buisness]

EmoJoe
03-14-2005, 08:22 PM
What? :confused:
or are you just laughing because I should have just called you Joe? :lol:
No, you spelled my name wrong :lol: I was correcting you ;)

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 08:22 PM
And they SHOULD be. That's GOOD parenting!! As for me? I've been raised up like shiit, so it doesn't matter if I show my face or not. However, now my main concern is remaining anonymous. Call me paranoid, but I can't risk someone who I know in the physical life stumbling on here, seeing my picture, recognizing me, and then finding out about my ED. ;)


That sucks, but it always does matter whether or not you show your face - and I mean more safety from perverts over people who might know you! Just always be careful, and she was thankfully in this case!

And while you are still pretty now, remember, if you do keep up the ED you won't be - so glad you saw your teacher again today, but too bad you didn't get more time with her (should have told her "not so great" instead of "okay" - she must have seen how tired you looked)!

EmoJoe
03-14-2005, 08:22 PM
:shocked

I think you are off. It's not flirting, it's called encouragement.Whatever. My bad

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 08:26 PM
You owe me! LOL! :lol: But I owe you PM's, so we're even. :p

But can I ask something? I'd perfer not to get PM's, because I don't always refer to them. Hope you don't mind. :)

Yeah I know I owe - I've been trying to get to it all day but keep getting sidetracked!!! :crazy:

No problem with the PMs, I just use it to post or ask something that I think might embarrass you or put you on the spot. Didn't want to do that - re; your confusion and uncertainty and some other things I'm noticing that I did too :( See - I have been paying attention and think I'm back on track now!
:lol:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 08:29 PM
That sucks, but it always does matter whether or not you show your face - and I mean more safety from perverts over people who might know you! Just always be careful, and she was thankfully in this case!

And while you are still pretty now, remember, if you do keep up the ED you won't be - so glad you saw your teacher again today, but too bad you didn't get more time with her (should have told her "not so great" instead of "okay" - she must have seen how tired you looked)!Ehh.. I suppose I should've said, "not so great." But I'm the kind of person who says "okay," "I'm fine," blah blah when people ask me how I am doing, you know? I don't know. It's just a habit, but the next time I see her (whenever that will be... sigh...) I will have to remind myself to say "not so great." Grrrrr. :mad: And it was mighty dark in her room, she was getting ready to leave, so her lights were closed, LOL. Plus, she was rushing, she wouldn't have noticed how tired I was. But several people in school DID ask me "how many hours of sleep did you get last night?" LOL.

On the side note, I upped my intake to 1600 tonight. No bingeing, either... I suppose that's something to be happy about. :( But if it is,why do I still feel like shiit??

Check out dinner. Cheese ravioli....with um.. veggie soup... heh. Oh my! :liplick:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 08:30 PM
Yeah I know I owe - I've been trying to get to it all day but keep getting sidetracked!!! :crazy:

No problem with the PMs, I just use it to post or ask something that I think might embarrass you or put you on the spot. Didn't want to do that - re; your confusion and uncertainty and some other things I'm noticing that I did too :( See - I have been paying attention and think I'm back on track now!
:lol:What confusion and uncertainty? :confused:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 08:33 PM
And here's some sweets we had in our home several weeks ago.... I ate them all in a binge. :o

Guess you can tell I'm into food photography, ay? I call it..... [ F O O D * P O R N ] by....moi LOL.

Obsessed, I tell yah! Obsessed!!!! :mad:

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 08:44 PM
Ehh.. I suppose I should've said, "not so great." But I'm the kind of person who says "okay," "I'm fine," blah blah when people ask me how I am doing, you know? I don't know. It's just a habit, but the next time I see her (whenever that will be... sigh...) I will have to remind myself to say "not so great." Grrrrr. :mad: And it was mighty dark in her room, she was getting ready to leave, so her lights were closed, LOL. Plus, she was rushing, she wouldn't have noticed how tired I was. But several people in school DID ask me "how many hours of sleep did you get last night?" LOL.

On the side note, I upped my intake to 1600 tonight. No bingeing, either... I suppose that's something to be happy about. :( But if it is,why do I still feel like shiit??

Check out dinner. Cheese ravioli....with um.. veggie soup... heh. Oh my! :liplick:


WAY TO GO!!![SIZE=4][B]

That's perfect - 1600 - nothing wrong with that at all - especially after that fast! Good for u! And it looks really good actually!!! Is that homemade or something?! ;)

You've got me hungry again now!!! :lol:

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 08:46 PM
What confusion and uncertainty? :confused:

From one of your previous posts (yesterday afternoon sometime I think)!

This thing's so long now we should call it The Beast!!! :lol:

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 08:46 PM
WAY TO GO!!![SIZE=4][B]


You've got me hungry again now!!! :lol:

Me too! And I just had dinner at Texas Roadhouse :lol:
I pigged out there :shame:

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 08:50 PM
And here's some sweets we had in our home several weeks ago.... I ate them all in a binge. :o

Guess you can tell I'm into food photography, ay? I call it..... [ F O O D * P O R N ] by....moi LOL.

Obsessed, I tell yah! Obsessed!!!! :mad:

If you can beat the ED obsession portion of this, you've got a great career path in store for you!! Seriously - you could make money in advertising and cookbooks!!! ;) :D

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 08:51 PM
Me too! And I just had dinner at Texas Roadhouse :lol:
I pigged out there :shame:


Hardly!!! Probably just had a proper dinner! Eat balanced and the right portions and you'll be fine!! :thumbsup:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 08:59 PM
From one of your previous posts (yesterday afternoon sometime I think)!

This thing's so long now we should call it The Beast!!! :lol:I think I'm lost. LOL. I have no idea what you're referring to, sorry. :(

And please don't praise me, I don't deserve it. It's not hard for me to eat, it's really not. Maybe that's why I look so healthy? haha. It's harder for me to restrict than anything. Remember, I'm a binge eater. ;)

As for photography, haha, yeah, I like it..it's especially hard to take pics of food, tho. Scenary, however, I find pretty simple. :) This one's my all time favorite! NYC!!! :D

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 09:01 PM
Me too! And I just had dinner at Texas Roadhouse :lol:
I pigged out there :shame:No need to feel ashamed. EVERYONE pigs out once in a while. It's okay. :)

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 09:03 PM
No need to feel ashamed. EVERYONE pigs out once in a while. It's okay. :)

Yeah, it mostly happens when I skip meals or after I've starven myself. I didn't skip any meals today.....so I guess I was just really hungry.

btw-this is offtopic, but is just me or is it when you type a post here it kinda goes slow when you type?

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 09:05 PM
I think I'm lost. LOL. I have no idea what you're referring to, sorry. :(

And please don't praise me, I don't deserve it. It's not hard for me to eat, it's really not. Maybe that's why I look so healthy? haha. It's harder for me to restrict than anything. Remember, I'm a binge eater. ;)

As for photography, haha, yeah, I like it..it's especially hard to take pics of food, tho. Scenary, however, I find pretty simple. :) This one's my all time favorite! NYC!!! :D


K - but I've GOT to praise you on the photography! That is a gorgeous shot! Looks like it was taken around early Fall or something. Doesn't your family know how good those are? crazy?! :crazy:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 09:08 PM
Yeah, it mostly happens when I skip meals or after I've starven myself. I didn't skip any meals today.....so I guess I was just really hungry.

btw-this is offtopic, but is just me or is it when you type a post here it kinda goes slow when you type?Which is exactly why you should NEVER EVER starve yourself, else you may turn out to be a binge eater, like me, and end up GAINING weight!! :eek: I've eaten as much as 10,000 cals before... how's THAT for frightening?? :eek: No exaggeration, btw. I've gained 24 lbs because of this... it was binge binge binge, every day. Ohhhh, sooooo not fun!

Good for you for not skipping meals. Skipping meals = bad bad bad bad bad!!! Got it? :) GOOD! (Oxymoron? LOL) Just listen to your body. If your body tells you its hungry, then EAT. If you're full. Then stop. Listen to your mind/body. It knows best!

As for typing, that's probably just lag. Don't worry about that, either. ;)

Pus$y Galore
03-14-2005, 09:08 PM
No need to feel ashamed. EVERYONE pigs out once in a while. It's okay. :)

For NEITHER of you to feel ashamed of it! TW - you ate a good (half decent anyway) meal without going overboard and without starving again.

Lana - that yo-yo effect is what we were talking about. When you starve your body, it goes nuts when it can get food again (especially carbs) - until you get deep into ED and basically stop eating solids altogether. Best to stick to a steady, well balanced, not too huge of portions meals!

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 09:12 PM
Which is exactly why you should NEVER EVER starve yourself, else you may turn out to be a binge eater, like me, and end up GAINING weight!! :eek: I've eaten as much as 10,000 cals before... how's THAT for frightening?? :eek: No exaggeration, btw. I've gained 24 lbs because of this... it was binge binge binge, every day. Ohhhh, sooooo not fun!

Good for you for not skipping meals. Skipping meals = bad bad bad bad bad!!! Got it? :) GOOD! (Oxymoron? LOL) Just listen to your body. If your body tells you its hungry, then EAT. If you're full. Then stop. Listen to your mind/body. It knows best!

As for typing, that's probably just lag. Don't worry about that, either. ;)

Yep.....I'll never do any of that again.
It'll take forever to get thin then, and it's not worth waiting and suffering :lol:

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 09:13 PM
K - but I've GOT to praise you on the photography! That is a gorgeous shot! Looks like it was taken around early Fall or something. Doesn't your family know how good those are? crazy?! :crazy:
My family doesnt know anything about me. :( They leave me alone in the apt ALL the time. They spend all their time with my brother, and my godgrandmother that they dont even see me suffering... they dont even know. :(

And thanks for the compliment. I actually have several albums, LOL. It was taken February, actually. :) This one's more recent. Chinatown! And below that- Central Park!

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 09:13 PM
Lana - that yo-yo effect is what we were talking about. When you starve your body, it goes nuts when it can get food again (especially carbs) - until you get deep into ED and basically stop eating solids altogether. Best to stick to a steady, well balanced, not too huge of portions meals!

Yeah, I agree.

btw, you can call me Ruthie :)
My real name's Niki, but call me either one ;)

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 09:14 PM
My family doesnt know anything about me. :( They leave me alone in the apt ALL the time. They spend all their time with my brother, and my godgrandmother that they dont even see me suffering... they dont even know. :(

And thanks for the compliment. I actually have several albums, LOL. It was taken February, actually. :) This one's more recent. Chinatown! And below that- Central Park!

Great photographs.

And I'm sorry to hear that your parents don't know anything about you :(

My parents pay TOO much attention to me. You have advantages, you really do. But it just sucks that you still have that ED :(

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 09:16 PM
Yep.....I'll never do any of that again.
It'll take forever to get thin then, and it's not worth waiting and suffering :lol:It's more worth it to wait. TRUST me. I'll give you some numbers to illustrate. Before I started dieting, I was merely 105 pounds. After "dieting" for 2 years or so, I was 120 pounds. Do the math. This ISN'T dieting. It's not a win-win situation at ALL. In some cases, like with me, you get immensely heavier than you were BEFORE. So.... why the hell bother, right?

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 09:18 PM
Great photographs.

And I'm sorry to hear that your parents don't know anything about you :(

My parents pay TOO much attention to me. You have advantages, you really do. But it just sucks that you still have that ED :(I would prefer a parent who pays more attention to their children and raise then RIGHT. Than a parent who neglects their child and his/her needs. Like glasses, for example. :mad:

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 09:18 PM
It's more worth it to wait. TRUST me. I'll give you some numbers to illustrate. Before I started dieting, I was merely 105 pounds. After "dieting" for 2 years or so, I was 120 pounds. Do the math. This ISN'T dieting. It's not a win-win situation at ALL. In some cases, like with me, you get immensely heavier than you were BEFORE. So.... why the hell bother, right?

Wow, you're right. One of my teachers said I'm the perfect weight and I shouldn't mess with my body right now.

G-Force Glockstar
03-14-2005, 09:19 PM
I would prefer a parent who pays more attention to their children and raise then RIGHT. Than a parent who neglects their child and his/her needs. Like glasses, for example. :mad:

Oh yeah, I forgot......yeah my glasses and hearing aids really do help.
I just wish my parents wouldn't set up rules and make me go to Sylvan ands stuff.

Warm & Fuzzy
03-14-2005, 09:20 PM
Wow, you're right. One of my teachers said I'm the perfect weight and I shouldn't mess with my body right now.Postively! You are PERFECT, you hear? I was perfect, too.... I was thin.... But I decided to screw myself up, and now I'm even HEAVIER than I was when I began, hahahaa. What a dork, ayy?? What an ignorant fool I was and still am.. what a biitch. Dont mind me. just speaking to myself.