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tvje
08-22-2004, 06:40 PM
What are your predictions for who will win at the 21st Annual MTV Video Music Awards? My predictions are:

Best Video - Outkast "Hey Ya"

Best Male Video - Usher featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris "Yeah" (though I would love it if Prince won for "Musicology")

Best Female Video - Beyonce "Naughty Girl" (Alicia Keys deserves to win it for "If I Ain't Got You", but I like Beyonce also)

Best Group Video - D 12 "My Band"

Best Pop Video - Britney Spears "Toxic"

Best Rap Video - Jay Z "99 Problems"

Best R&B Video - Usher "Burn"

Best Rock Video - Jet "Are You Going To Be My Girl?"

Best Dance Video - Beyonce "Naughty Girl"

Best Hip Hop Video - Outkast "Hey Ya"

And Destiny's Child will open a show with a surprise preformance, and Dave Chappelle will have the crowd laughing in stiches.

Hollow
08-22-2004, 07:56 PM
not evanescence, linkin park or anyone else i wanna win, thats for sure :grr:

BowWowsBaby
08-22-2004, 08:31 PM
Best Video:
Who I want to win: Usher~Yeah!
Who will win: Either Usher or Jay Z

Best Male Video:
Who I want to win: Usher~Yeah!
Who will win: Usher~Yeah!

Best Female Video:
Who I want to win: Alicia Keys~If I Ain't Got You
Who will win: Beyonce~Naughty Girl

Best Group Video:
Who I want to win: No Doubt~It's My Life
Who will win: probably Maroon 5~This Love

Best Rap Video:
Who will win: don't care as long as it's not D12

Best R&B Artist
Who I want to win: Usher~Burn & Alicia Keys~If I Aint Got You
Who will win: Usher~Burn

Best Hip-Hop Video:
Who I want to win: Nelly & Murphy Lee~Shake Ya Tailfeather
Who will win: Outkast~Hey Ya

Best Dance Video:
Who I want to win: Usher~Yeah!
Who will win: "

Best Rock Video:
Who I want to win: The Darkness~I Believe in a Thing Called Love
Who will win: not the one i want to win probably

Best Pop Video:
Lets not even go there

Best New Artist:
Who I want to win: JoJo~Leave (Get Out)
Who will win: Maroon 5 or JoJo

MTV2 Award:
Who I want to win: dont care
Who will win: have no idea

Viewers Choice:
Who I want to win: NO ONE!!!!!!
Who will win: dont care

Breakthrough Video:
Who I want to win: Kanye West~All Falls Down
Who will win: I have no idea, Kanye is the only one I know

Best Direction:
Who I want to win: Outkast~Hey Ya
Who will win: "

Best Choreography:
Who I want to win: Usher~Yeah!
Who will win: Usher~Yeah! or Beyonce~Naughty Girl

Best Special Effects:
Who I want to win: Outkast~Hey Ya
Who will win: ?¿

Best Art Direction:
Who I want to win: Alicia Keys~You Don't Know My Name
Who will win: "

Best Editing:
I dont know a damn thing about editing

Best Cinematography:
couldn't care less

Best Video Game Soundtrack:
What the hell is that?

Enjoy!

vashti1999
08-22-2004, 08:51 PM
I want Prince to win for Best Male Video or perform on the show. Anything other than that, I don't care. But with his Musicology tour in Denver on Saturday and Seattle on Monday, I doubt he'd make a trip to Miami just to appear at the awards.

SBTB Geek
08-23-2004, 02:02 AM
Video Of The Year
Outkast, "Hey Ya!"
Usher, "Yeah!"
Britney Spears, "Toxic"
D12, "My Band"
Jay-Z, "99 Problems"


Best Male Video
Usher, "Yeah!"
Jay-Z, "99 Problems"
Justin Timberlake, "Senorita"
Kanye West featuring Syleena Johnson, "All Falls Down"
Prince, "Musicology"


Best Female Video
Britney Spears, "Toxic"
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"
Alicia Keys, "If I Ain't Got You"
Jessica Simpson, "With You"
Christina Aguilera, "The Voice Within"


Best Group Video
No Doubt, "It's My Life"
D12, "My Band"
Hoobastank, "The Reason"
Maroon 5, "This Love"
Good Charlotte, "Hold On"


Best Rap Video
Jay-Z, "99 Problems"
D12, "My Band"
50 Cent featuring Snoop Dogg & G-Unit, "P.I.M.P." Remix
Ludacris, "Stand Up"
Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz featuring Ying Yang Twins, "Get Low"


Best R&B Video
Usher, "Burn"
Alicia Keys, "If I Ain't Got You"
Brandy featuring Kanye West, "Talk About Our Love"
Beyoncé, "Me, Myself and I"
R. Kelly, "Step in the Name of Love"


Best Hip-Hop Video
Outkast, "Hey Ya!"
Black Eyed Peas, "Hey Mama"
Kanye West featuring Syleena Johnson, "All Falls Down"
Nelly featuring P. Diddy and Murphy Lee, "Shake Ya Tailfeather"
Chingy featuring Ludacris and Snoop Dogg, "Holidae In"


Best Dance Video
Usher, "Yeah!"
Black Eyed Peas, "Hey Mama"
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"
Britney Spears, "Toxic"
Missy Elliott, "I'm Really Hot"


Best Rock Video
Jet, "Are You Gonna Be My Girl"
The Darkness, "I Believe in a Thing Called Love"
Hoobastank, "The Reason"
Evanescence, "My Immortal"
Linkin Park, "Breaking the Habit"


Best Pop Video
Britney Spears, "Toxic"
Jessica Simpson, "With You"
Hilary Duff, "Come Clean"
No Doubt, "It's My Life"
Avril Lavigne, "Don't Tell Me"


Best New Artist In A Video
Jet, "Are You Gonna Be My Girl"
Maroon 5, "This Love"
JoJo, "Leave (Get Out)"
Kanye West featuring Syleena Johnson, "All Falls Down"
Yellowcard, "Ocean Avenue"
The Darkness, "I Believe in a Thing Called Love"


MTV2 Award
Yeah Yeah Yeahs, "Maps"
Elephant Man, "Pon De River"
Yellowcard, "Ocean Avenue"
Twista featuring Kanye West and Jamie Foxx, "Slow Jamz"
Franz Ferdinand, "Take Me Out"
Modest Mouse, "Float On"


Best Choreography In A Video
Usher featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris, "Yeah!"
Black Eyed Peas, "Hey Mama"
Missy Elliott, "I'm Really Hot"
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"
Sean Paul, "Like Glue"


Breakthrough Video
Franz Ferdinand, "Take Me Out"
Modest Mouse, "Float On"
Kanye West featuring Syleena Johnson, "All Falls Down"
New Found Glory, "All Downhill From Here"
White Stripes, "The Hardest Button to Button"
Steriogram, "Walkie Talkie Man"


Best Direction In A Video
Jay-Z, "99 Problems" (Director: Mark Romanek)
No Doubt, "It's My Life" (Director: David LaChapelle)
Outkast, "Hey Ya!" (Director: Bryan Barber)
White Stripes, "The Hardest Button to Button" (Director: Michel Gondry)
Steriogram, "Walkie Talkie Man" (Director: Michel Gondry)


Best Special Effects In A Video
Incubus, "Megalomaniac"
Outkast, "Hey Ya!"
White Stripes, "The Hardest Button to Button"
Modest Mouse, "Float On"
Steriogram, "Walkie Talkie Man"


Best Cinematography In A Video
Jay-Z, "99 Problems"
No Doubt, "It's My Life"
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"
Yeah Yeah Yeahs, "Maps"
Christina Aguilera, "The Voice Within"


Best Soundtrack From A Video Game
Madden NFL 2004
SSX 3
True Crime: Streets of LA
Need for Speed Underground
Tony Hawk's Underground


Viewer's Choice
Christina Aguilera, "The Voice Within"
Linkin Park, "Breaking The Habit"
Yellowcard, "Ocean Avenue"
Good Charlotte, "Hold On" :o
Simple Plan, "Perfect"

Dean Winchester
08-23-2004, 02:19 AM
Video Of The Year-don't care
Best Male Video-Prince
Best Female Video-don't care
Best Group Video-Maroon 5
Best Rap Video-don't care
Best R&B Video-Alicia Keys
Best Hip-Hop Video-don't care
Best Dance Video-Britney
Best Rock Video-The Darkness
Best Pop Video-No Doubt
Best New Artist In A Video-Maroon 5
MTV2 Award-Franz Ferdinand
Best Choreography In A Video-don't care
Breakthrough Video-New Found Glory
Franz Ferdinand, "Take Me Out"
Best Direction In A Video-don't care
Best Special Effects In A Video-Incubus
Best Cinematography In A Video-don't care
Best Soundtrack From A Video Game-really don't care
Viewer's Choice-Linkin Park

vashti1999
08-29-2004, 06:50 PM
I turned on the pre-show but I've gotta turn it off, all this celebrity sugar is making me sick. "You look fabulous, what are you wearing?" Ashanti apparently punctuates all her sentences with a giggle. If there's no surprise Prince appearance, the awards show is gonna be a dud for me.

BowWowsBaby
08-29-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by vashti1999
I turned on the pre-show but I've gotta turn it off, all this celebrity sugar is making me sick. "You look fabulous, what are you wearing?" Ashanti apparently punctuates all her sentences with a giggle. If there's no surprise Prince appearance, the awards show is gonna be a dud for me.


AHHH I absolutely cannot stand Ashanti, I turned the channel when I saw her and then turned it on again after I figured it was safe :lol: ....I'll be doing the same when Ashlee Simpson comes on. The show itself should be good and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a surprise perfomance by Prince, so hang in there Vashti.

vashti1999
08-29-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by BowWowsBaby
The show itself should be good and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a surprise perfomance by Prince, so hang in there Vashti.

Actually I would be surprised if Prince showed up, only because his tour is on the West Coast. I was just hoping that since he doesn't have a concert scheduled tonight, it might be a possibility that he'd be on the show.

Suchin Pak is so bubbly it's irritating. She's almost making me wish Tabitha Soren was still around.

Hollow
08-29-2004, 08:28 PM
Video Of The Year
Jay-Z, "99 Problems"

Best Male Video
Usher, "Yeah!"

Best Female Video
Britney Spears, "Toxic"

Best Group Video
No Doubt, "It's My Life"

Best Rap Video
D12, "My Band"

Best R&B Video
Usher, "Burn"

Best Hip-Hop Video
Outkast, "Hey Ya!"

Best Dance Video
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"

Best Rock Video
The Darkness, "I Believe in a Thing Called Love"

Best Pop Video
Britney Spears, "Toxic"

Best New Artist In A Video
Maroon 5, "This Love"

MTV2 Award
Twista featuring Kanye West and Jamie Foxx, "Slow Jamz"

Best Choreography In A Video
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"

Breakthrough Video
Kanye West featuring Syleena Johnson, "All Falls Down"

Best Direction In A Video
Outkast, "Hey Ya!" (Director: Bryan Barber)

Best Special Effects In A Video
Modest Mouse, "Float On"

Best Cinematography In A Video
Beyoncé, "Naughty Girl"

Best Soundtrack From A Video Game
True Crime: Streets of LA

Viewer's Choice
Yellowcard, "Ocean Avenue"

probably what will win. 95% of the nominations suck. god, why does everything have to be jay-z and usher ****. and metallica wont be making any appearances so **** that.

BowWowsBaby
08-29-2004, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by vashti1999
Actually I would be surprised if Prince showed up, only because his tour is on the West Coast. I was just hoping that since he doesn't have a concert scheduled tonight, it might be a possibility that he'd be on the show.

Suchin Pak is so bubbly it's irritating. She's almost making me wish Tabitha Soren was still around.


Awww, I didn't know Prince was already on the west coast. He was just in Philly a couple nights ago so I figured he was still around somewhere. I don't like SuChin Pak much either, I think Quddus should have handled the red carpet instead of her, but what are ya gonna do? I'm really looking forward to Alicia's and Kanye's performances.

BowWowsBaby
08-29-2004, 10:23 PM
OMFG did everyone just see the most awesome performance....STEVIE WONDER at the VMA's. He performed w/ Alicia Keys and Lenny Kravitz and it was awesome. I was soooo happy to see Stevie :D

Dean Winchester
08-29-2004, 10:26 PM
this is the first year I have avoided the VMA's like the plague... the roster is like 99% rap... and Hoobastank.

Whatever happened to the diversity, a little rock, a little r&b, a little pop, a little rap, maybe two or three legends (and I don't mean as a "special guest performer"?), The VMA's used to kick, now they suck

BowWowsBaby
08-29-2004, 10:37 PM
I thought it was pretty good....The performances were good (Jet was good, Usher was as sexy as ever, Nelly and Christina were great, and don't even get me started on Stevie, Alicia, and Lenny cause that just kicked ass), and the Jon Stewart parts were pretty funny, Omarion was lookin good when he presented best female video (that boy can sing acapella too). Overall, I really liked it.

vashti1999
08-29-2004, 10:50 PM
So far the Nelly/Christina and the Alicia/Stevie/Lenny performances were the only things I liked about this show. Still waiting for Outkast.

BowWowsBaby
08-29-2004, 11:22 PM
There were some really great performances this year, I was pretty surprised. The tribute to Ray Charles was nice but it would have been better if they would have had a moment in silence before going right to the beastie boys only seconds after the tribute speech was finished.

tvje
08-29-2004, 11:48 PM
The Alicia Key/Stevie Wonder/Lenny Kravitz preformance and the Outkast preformance were the only good preformances.

I think Outkast is getting sick of preforming "Hey Ya". I still like the song.

Speaking of Outkast, I was right, they won video for the year.

I wish Dave Chappelle hosted the show. He could have saved the VMAs, which outside of his comedy, and the two preformances I mentioned above, really wasn't good this year.

MTV should bring the VMAs back to New York.

SBTB Geek
08-30-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by tvje
MTV should bring the VMAs back to New York.

I agree... the VMA's were a complete mess a year. It was clearly obvious that there were MANY technical problems. I'm 99% sure that the thing with Omarion singing acappela of the best female nominees wasn't planned, something went wrong.

This also seemed to be the first year when some BIG nominees were missing- in example, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Maroon 5. There were no surprises, special performances, was there even a tribute to Rick James?!... The only person who acknowledged him was Dave Chappelle.

The complete "no-host" thing sucked... big time. Why didn't they get Dave to do the opening number instead?

There were NO big performers, who the heck cares for Kanye West, Hoobastank, Jet, Poly(something) Spree, Petey Pablo, and the Terror Squad. Hopefully Usher tivo'd this, once he gets home he's going to realize how full of it he is. He always claimes to be a top performer, his opening performance was terrible. I guess I had higher expectations.

The only performances I considered enjoyable were by... Alicia Keys with Stevie Wonder and Lenny Kravitz, and Outkast was just okay, I've seen them do better. I'm sure you guys know I'm a Christina fan, but I will always be the first to admit whenever she does something less than spectacular, for example, last year's performace was bland, but this year she was GREAT, it was one of the few highlights of the show. I also have to give Yellowcard some props, I'm not a fan of theirs, but they gave a very strong performance.

Mr. Stefani
08-30-2004, 01:20 PM
That **** sucked. I turned it off after No Doubt won best Group video. Pathetic they can't even get anyone half decent to perform. I felt like I was watching the BET awards with all those damn rappers and the million people onstage with them. Crap.

Mr. Stefani
08-30-2004, 01:23 PM
and what the hell usher britney called she wants her act back you god damn turtle.

BowWowsBaby
08-30-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Stefani
and what the hell usher britney called she wants her act back you god damn turtle.


I like it hen Usher strips :lol: .......Anyways, I guess I'm the only one that thought the awards were pretty much worthwhile. Some of the performances sucked (ie. Hoobastank, Polyphonic Spree, Fat Joe/Petey Pablo,/etc.), and some of them were rather disappointing (ie. Kanye West but it was kind of cool to see Chaka Khan on stage even though it was rather predictable), but some were awesome (ie. Stevie Wonder/Alicia Keys/Lenny Kravitz, USHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!, and Nelly & Christina).

SBTB Geek
08-30-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Stefani
I felt like I was watching the BET awards with all those damn rappers and the million people onstage with them. Crap.

Exactly.

Dean Winchester
08-30-2004, 03:13 PM
why do so many rap acts have this idea that they can't actually score a hit single on their own? Collaborations are supposed to be the exception, not the rule. The merging of two artists. Yet 90% of the rappers out there who are popular right now don't really know how to actually do something on their own.

One of the reasons Outkast was so popular was because Hey Ya and Roses were songs that didn't have the aide of any guest stars, they worked fine as they were.

As much as people wanna make fun of the "Cheesy" likes of MC Hammer, Tone Loc and the sort... at least they didn't rely on guest-stars to make their songs popular.

Hollow
08-30-2004, 03:41 PM
the winners all sucked, except linkin park. the singer of hoobastank made an ass of himself during their performance.

and who won best special effects?

BowWowsBaby
08-30-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
the winners all sucked, except linkin park. the singer of hoobastank made an ass of himself during their performance.

and who won best special effects?

I beg to differ about the winners but ,yes, hoobastank sucked.


Outkast~Hey Ya won the best special effects award.

vashti1999
08-30-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
why do so many rap acts have this idea that they can't actually score a hit single on their own? Collaborations are supposed to be the exception, not the rule. The merging of two artists. Yet 90% of the rappers out there who are popular right now don't really know how to actually do something on their own.

One of the reasons Outkast was so popular was because Hey Ya and Roses were songs that didn't have the aide of any guest stars, they worked fine as they were.

As much as people wanna make fun of the "Cheesy" likes of MC Hammer, Tone Loc and the sort... at least they didn't rely on guest-stars to make their songs popular.


I don't think Hey Ya and Roses not having guests had anything to do with them being popular, that's just a case of right place at the right time for Outkast. The commercial/critical acclaim just took hold and whatever Outkast did just happened to get some notice. Andre 3000 could have recorded himself eating a bag of Doritos and it might've hit the top ten. Just because the trend seems to be rap artists collaborating with one another, that doesn't suggest that any of them couldn't have the same popularity with a song if they didn't.

By the way, MC Hammer relied on tons of guest stars to make his songs popular: Rick James, Prince, the Chi-Lites, James Brown, etc. and that's even worse than the collaborations.

Dean Winchester
08-30-2004, 03:52 PM
am I the only person who thought Roses was a better video? Paul McCartney did the same video for Coming Up in the early 80's as Hey Ya was.

BowWowsBaby
08-30-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
am I the only person who thought Roses was a better video? Paul McCartney did the same video for Coming Up in the early 80's as Hey Ya was.

I like both videos about the same.

Dean Winchester
08-30-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by vashti1999
Just because the trend seems to be rap artists collaborating with one another, that doesn't suggest that any of them couldn't have the same popularity with a song if they didn't.

By the way, MC Hammer relied on tons of guest stars to make his songs popular: Rick James, Prince, the Chi-Lites, James Brown, etc. and that's even worse than the collaborations.

well, the prob is that collabs are so overdone. Duets are always fun, but when done in moderation. Many of the hot rappers haven't shown they can carry a song on their own because they always wanna bring in guests.

I don't understand why MC Hammer got crucified for blatant sampling when P. Diddy did the same thing and MTV still kisses his butt. I'll Be Missing You was as blatant theft as U Can't Touch This was IMO.

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
08-30-2004, 04:39 PM
The best thing about the VMA's was Jon Stewart.

BowWowsBaby
08-30-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
The best thing about the VMA's was Jon Stewart.


:lol: he was funny

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
08-30-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Stefani
That **** sucked. I turned it off after No Doubt won best Group video. Pathetic they can't even get anyone half decent to perform. I felt like I was watching the BET awards with all those damn rappers and the million people onstage with them. Crap.
:nod: Ugh I agree. Throughout the whole show I just kept thinking of how much better they used to be. And they need a host. Dave was funny.

and what the hell usher britney called she wants her act back you god damn turtle.
:rotflmao:

Hollow
08-30-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by BowWowsBaby
Outkast~Hey Ya won the best special effects award.
you've got to be kidding me. not because it's by far one of the most annoying songs i've heard, but what special effects were there? i think there was something computerized at the beginning and end, but otherwise it was just a bunch of skanks screaming. megalomaniac should have won.

Hollow
08-30-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
am I the only person who thought Roses was a better video? Paul McCartney did the same video for Coming Up in the early 80's as Hey Ya was.
Roses was a much better song and video. it should have been nominated. i hate hey ya.

Jrnygrl
08-30-2004, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
am I the only person who thought Roses was a better video? Paul McCartney did the same video for Coming Up in the early 80's as Hey Ya was.

Good observation! The Hey Ya video was a combination of Paul McCartney's coming up and also the Beatles appearance on the Ed Sullivan show. The reason I say that is because if you watch the Beatle first appearance on the Ed Sullivan show there was mass hysteria with the girls in the audience. So we know that Andre 3000 is a fan of the Beatles and Paul.

I saw only a little of the show, when Bee (Beyonce) won. Would someone please tell her mother to stop dressing her like a hooker!!!! And Jay Z looked like her pimp.

BowWowsBaby
08-30-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Jrnygrl

I saw only a little of the show, when Bee (Beyonce) won. Would someone please tell her mother to stop dressing her like a hooker!!!! And Jay Z looked like her pimp.

:lol: ......I was thinking the same thing. I couldn't believe B won best female video for Naughty Girl (I wouldn't care if it was for "Me, Myself, and I" but I really don't like "Naughty Girl" even if my man Usher is in the video) :rolleyes: Oh an there acceptance sppeches were just so beautiful ("What up B", "What up Jay").....Ah well