Tonights Results

[TVFactFan]

Tonight Jasmine won't cry until she goes to bed-LOL!!!!!

[ThomasE]

Hooray!

[Brian]

There's the surprise of the century.


Someone had better edit the thread title quick. :lookaroun

[Jrnygrl]

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Tonight Jasmine won't cry until she goes to bed-LOL!!!!!


:rofl: :crybaby:

[Krisalicious]

Good.

Ahh, I can't wait til next week! Vote Diana!

[David]

Originally posted by Brian
There's the surprise of the century.


Someone had better edit the thread title quick. :lookaroun will do :)

and ..... yes Jasmine can sing, otherwise she wouldnt have made 3rd place.

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by [.AIkenCompany3.]
will do :)

and ..... yes Jasmine can sing, otherwise she wouldnt have made 3rd place.


She survived because she is pretty

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

YES YES YES YES YES YES..
now I can breathe again lol

Please please please everyone....next week...
vote for FANTASIA

:D

[Vegas Girl]

This week justice has been served. :cheers:

[David]

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
She survived because she is pretty dont get me wrong, even though im a fan, im glad she's out. however, she did not make it through every week because she is pretty. she had talent. she wouldnt have been put through by the judges during all those rounds if she didnt have talent.

[ThomasE]

Well if she had been voted A.I. it would have hurt her moreso than helping her.

[Jrnygrl]

Originally posted by [.AIkenCompany3.]
dont get me wrong, even though im a fan, im glad she's out. however, she did not make it through every week because she is pretty. she had talent. she wouldnt have been put through by the judges during all those rounds if she didnt have talent.

and John Stevens did too. don't kid yourself.

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by Jrnygrl
and John Stevens did too. don't kid yourself. Hey, the old ladies loved him and the girls found him to be a cutie. His voice wasnt 'Idol' material, but his voice was decent nonetheless. The judges liked him enough to put him in the top 32.

[Jrnygrl]

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Hey, the old ladies loved him and the girls found him to be a cutie. His voice wasnt 'Idol' material, but his voice was decent nonetheless. The judges liked him enough to put him in the top 32.

Yes you are right, and he took the criticism like a man and didn't cry like a baby, so for that I give him his props!:wave:

[vienna waits]

DIAL DEGARMO

here's to staying up for four hours next Tuesday :woohoo:

[G-Force Glockstar]

I am sad that Jasmine left, but it was time for her to go.

Gosh, I can't decide who I should vote for next week!
Both, Fantasia and Diana, are so good!!

[*InThisMoment*]

Well, it was definately Jasmine's time to go. :/ Now, even tho I like Diana quite a bit too, I'll probably be rooting for Fantasia, because she's obviously the best and deserves to win. :D But both of them are good. :lol:

[vienna waits]

Just saw on the news that Simon told the NY Times that he wants Di to win. Fantasia is going to get a contract anyways (Clive Davis already said so). For that reason, Diana will benefit the most. Oh I wish I wish I wish...


she is my strength when I am weak. she is my voice when I couldn't speak. she is my eyes when i couldn't see. she saw the best there was in me...


any Di fans are welcome to add what I have in my sig in theirs.

[G-Force Glockstar]

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
Just saw on the news that Simon told the NY Times that he wants Di to win. Fantasia is going to get a contract anyways (Clive Davis already said so). For that reason, Diana will benefit the most. Oh I wish I wish I wish...


she is my strength when I am weak. she is my voice when I couldn't speak. she is my eyes when i couldn't see. she saw the best there was in me...


any Di fans are welcome to add what I have in my sig in theirs.

If Fantsia is already gonna make a CD, I guess I'll just vote Diana!
I really like them both alot!

[-*Leah*-]

I am happy with tonights results, and for me, it's Fantasia 100%. Diana has grown on me, but Fantasia deserves this, no matter how you look at it. Sure, maybe she could get it on her own, but not crowning her as American Idol, when she has been consistently the best is just wrong. You cannot punish someone for being good. She wants to be the American Idol, and she deserves it. Diana will get a contract too, she is loved by a lot of people...


1-866-IDOLS-02 :D

[Cashodeen]

I can do my little happy dance now, :banana:


I guess I'll have to "vote like crazy" for the first time ever to cancel out some of those Diana votes next week. ;)

[Vegas Girl]

Being declared the winner will not make or break either of the girl's record careers. It's mainly for title and bragging rights.
They will both get record deals. Look at Clay. He's more popular than Ruben!

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by Jrnygrl
Yes you are right, and he took the criticism like a man and didn't cry like a baby, so for that I give him his props!:wave: Yeah, I think because the way he handled himself, he managed to stay in a bit longer. Im sure if he started getting cocky or crying like a baby each week, he wouldve been ousted. Sure he wouldve gotten sympathy votes, but no one wants to see the cry baby tears each week.

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic

DIAL DEGARMO

here's to staying up for four hours next Tuesday :woohoo: :cheers:

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by Vegas Girl
Being declared the winner will not make or break either of the girl's record careers. It's mainly for title and bragging rights.
They will both get record deals. Look at Clay. He's more popular than Ruben! :nod: I almost think its better to come in 2nd instead of getting the title. It makes people aware, and gives the fans of the runner-up the motivation to make us be heard to show everyone who we think is the real Idol. Of course, this is not in Justin Guarini's case. :lol: Im rooting for Diana all the way, but even if she doesnt win- she'll be here a long time especially because shes so young. However, I dont find this idol to be as popular (about 10-20 million less people watch this year than last), and this year nobody seems to have a clear favorite. Last year it was Ruben and Clay with all the fans, but this year you had your JPL fans, John Stevens, and the fans of the '3 divas'. So who knows? Either way, I dont see anyone this season doing a better job than last years 2 idol's. I could be wrong, but I just dont see them being nearly as successful. Not that Im hoping them to fail- they deserve to be where they are!:)

[Cactus Jack]

Originally posted by ?MsConanOBrien?
:nod: I almost think its better to come in 2nd instead of getting the title. It makes people aware, and gives the fans of the runner-up the motivation to make us be heard to show everyone who we think is the real Idol. Of course, this is not in Justin Guarini's case. :lol: Im rooting for Diana all the way, but even if she doesnt win- she'll be here a long time especially because shes so young. However, I dont find this idol to be as popular (about 10-20 million less people watch this year than last), and this year nobody seems to have a clear favorite. Last year it was Ruben and Clay with all the fans, but this year you had your JPL fans, John Stevens, and the fans of the '3 divas'. So who knows? Either way, I dont see anyone this season doing a better job than last years 2 idol's. I could be wrong, but I just dont see them being nearly as successful. Not that Im hoping them to fail- they deserve to be where they are!:) Ditto! I agree with all that

[vienna waits]

Originally posted by Cashodeen
I can do my little happy dance now, :banana:


I guess I'll have to "vote like crazy" for the first time ever to cancel out some of those Diana votes next week. ;)

:lol: I hope you're planning for a long night next Tuesday then.

And there's a good chance that Diana will not get a contract. Clive explicitily stated that if Diana wins, he will produce an excellent album from her. But if not, he will not be signing her. He is signing Fantasia regardless though. I know that he isn't the only record producer, but it won't be like last year when both Ruben and Clay were signed by RCA.

Go Di :cheer:

[ThomasE]

I did not watch last night's episode. Did Clyde actually say that he would sign Fantasia? Someone please respond. If so, she has got it locked up.

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

Originally posted by ThomasE
I did not watch last night's episode. Did Clyde actually say that he would sign Fantasia? Someone please respond. If so, she has got it locked up. He said that if had heard her sing in Kansas City or something, the way she sang that night, he'd sign her...I dont know if he said would actually SIGN her though. I think he will, though, regardless of whether she wins or not. Just like he wanted to sign Clay regardless of whether he won or not. That doesnt mean to stop voting for her though :D I see her cd selling more than Diana's actually...I see it getting more media coverage also...

[JT]

Diana is no diva.
And neither is Jasmine.

Fantasia is a diva in every shape and form!

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
Just saw on the news that Simon told the NY Times that he wants Di to win. Fantasia is going to get a contract anyways (Clive Davis already said so). For that reason, Diana will benefit the most. Oh I wish I wish I wish...
When did he say this? I just saw him on a show saying he thinks Fantasia should win...that's been made clear throughout the whole competition. Why would he act so reluctant to compliment Diana if he wants her to win?...anyway, I dont think Clive said that he was going to give her a contract, he said that if he had heard her singing the way she sang that night in Kansas City, or somewhere, that he would sign her because she sang whatever song so well. Hopefully he will give her a contract, but I dont think what he said Tuesday night meant that he was GOING to sign her...

[Cashodeen]

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
:lol: I hope you're planning for a long night next Tuesday then.


:lol: :nod:


And there's a good chance that Diana will not get a contract. Clive explicitily stated that if Diana wins, he will produce an excellent album from her. But if not, he will not be signing her. He is signing Fantasia regardless though. I know that he isn't the only record producer, but it won't be like last year when both Ruben and Clay were signed by RCA.

Go Di :cheer:

I understand what you've been saying about Diana needing this win more than Fantasia. Fantasia will be guarenteed a contract regardless, so if Diana takes the AI crown, they'll both win. I, still think the most worthy should earn the top spot, and I of course, think that's Fantasia. If Diana comes in second, she should still have a successful career ahead. She deserves it too. :)

[Cashodeen]

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
When did he say this? I just saw him on a show saying he thinks Fantasia should win...that's been made clear throughout the whole competition. Why would he act so reluctant to compliment Diana if he wants her to win?...anyway, I dont think Clive said that he was going to give her a contract, he said that if he had heard her singing the way she sang that night in Kansas City, or somewhere, that he would sign her because she sang whatever song so well. Hopefully he will give her a contract, but I dont think what he said Tuesday night meant that he was GOING to sign her...

Yeah, I wouldn't think Simon would say Diana should win. What I heard him say was that he though Diana WOULD win. I assume he thinks Fantasia should though. I didn't read the NY Times, but I did hear him say just what I posted.

And yes, Clive didn't promise Fantasia a contract if she loses. I also hope she'll get signed if Diana wins. It's a pretty good assumption that she will.

[vienna waits]

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
When did he say this? I just saw him on a show saying he thinks Fantasia should win...that's been made clear throughout the whole competition. Why would he act so reluctant to compliment Diana if he wants her to win?...anyway, I dont think Clive said that he was going to give her a contract, he said that if he had heard her singing the way she sang that night in Kansas City, or somewhere, that he would sign her because she sang whatever song so well. Hopefully he will give her a contract, but I dont think what he said Tuesday night meant that he was GOING to sign her...

Clive saying that he will sign Fantasia regardless:

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/tv/2004/05/19/americanidol_finalthree/

Simon saying that he thinks Diana will win:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/19/arts/television/19IDOL.html?ex=1085544000&en=c54ce33ba72ab45a&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

Originally posted by Cashodeen
Yeah, I wouldn't think Simon would say Diana should win. What I heard him say was that he though Diana WOULD win. I assume he thinks Fantasia should though. I didn't read the NY Times, but I did hear him say just what I posted.

And yes, Clive didn't promise Fantasia a contract if she loses. I also hope she'll get signed if Diana wins. It's a pretty good assumption that she will. Yeah, he said that he thought Diana would win, not that he wants her to win; there is a difference...but anyway, I think you're right about Clive giving Fantasia a record deal...I read the little article thingy ^, and there was nothing flat out that said Clive Davis would for sure, but I hope so :D....

[vienna waits]

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
Yeah, he said that he thought Diana would win, not that he wants her to win; there is a difference...but anyway, I think you're right about Clive giving Fantasia a record deal...I read the little article thingy ^, and there was nothing flat out that said Clive Davis would for sure, but I hope so :D....

Winning is winning to me. :)

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
Winning is winning to me. :) I know this is offtopic, but you never addressed why you said that Fantasia would be a bad American Idol because she has a daughter but isnt married, even though I asked. I'd really like an explanation.:) (um..and also, just how hard is ap language on a scale of 1 to 10..)

[vienna waits]

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
I know this is offtopic, but you never addressed why you said that Fantasia would be a bad American Idol because she has a daughter but isnt married, even though I asked. I'd really like an explanation.:) (um..and also, just how hard is ap language on a scale of 1 to 10..)

The term Idol has more connotations than just being a good singer. It is someone you can look up and sets an example. Fantasia dropping out of high school and not getting a GED is not a good example. Neither is getting pregnant at the age of 16. I don't look up to that. Fantasia would not even take the initiative to get a job after having Zion. She said that she got support from her family financially. If that's the case, she should have found some sort of child care so she could go out and get a job! Part of growing up fast is being able to eventually be independent. Sitting at home eating is not going to get her anywhere. Teenagers today face all sorts of pressure to be successful and Fantasia seemed to throw that to the wayside after Zion came along. That's one of the reasons why I consider Clay my American Idol. He has a degree in special education and will always have a fallback if singing doesn't work out. I admire Diana because here she is younger than me, and she almost has a career lined up for her. She's worked her butt off all these years of competing to try and get to this point. I do hope that she finds something else that she likes though to fall back on. That's my reasoning. Fantasia tried to present herself Monday as someone who grew up fast because of Zion, but to me, having a job should be at the top of the list of growing up. There are lots of single parents that are making it on their own.

I'd rate AP English as a 9. I say that because for me, the class went against pretty much everything that I have ever learned about writing. My teacher threw out uniform structure and five-paragraph essays on the first day of school. From that point on, writing was all about developing an original idea on self-selected nonfiction topics and working to satisfy the audience. It was hard for me to grasp because of all the choices that a writer has to make.

[-*Leah*-]

I found this at in a post at idolforums, so I am going to quote this post. Anyone who dislikes Fantasia, I really hope that you will read this. Some may not believe it, but it came from a notable newspaper.

"StraitTimes Interactive" website.


MAY 17, 2004
And the winner is...

The heat is on as American Idol finalists are whittled down from three to two this week. Who will be crowned queen?

By Elysa Chen and Tan Su Yin

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FANTASIA BARRINO, 19

HER singing can move people to tears, and her personal history, too, has been no less of a sob story.

Made pregnant by ex-boyfriend Brandel Shouse when she was 16, Fantasia Barrino was forced to drop out of high school.

She also endured physical abuse from Shouse, who later pleaded guilty to charges of 'choking Fantasia with both hands and punching her about the face and head'.

Being pregnant and unmarried was a crushing blow to the teenager's confidence, coming as it did on the back of her already low self-esteem when in school.

Kids in her native High Point, North Carolina, had ridiculed her physique, laughing at her for having a bottom that was too small and lips that were too big.

But she has clearly found herself through music. If her performances on American Idol are anything to go by, the single mother of a two-year-old daughter, Zion, looks to have picked up the pieces and moved right on.

Idol judge Randy Jackson has called her a 'young Aretha (Franklin)'.

Fellow judge Simon Cowell, with his brutally high standards, thinks she is 'the real thing', and considers her singing to be in a 'different league'.

Two weeks ago, judge Paula Abdul was driven to tears by her impassioned rendition of Barbra Streisand's What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life.

As to why words and music have both come easy for Barrino, who grew up singing in her church choir, look no further than her family's musical pedigree. Her parents have produced a record, and almost everyone on both sides of her family sings either gospel or pop music.

Her cousins are R&B duo K-Ci and JoJo (Cedric and Joel Hailey), who released the 1998 hit single, All My Life.

And Barrino would not have come this far without her family, who got her back on her feet after she left school. 'It's been hard,' says her mother Diane, a pastor. 'What you see coming out now is a lot of fight.'

And fought back Barrino has, against detractors of her voice or appearance.

'My lips are big, but my talent is bigger,' she declared at an Idol audition in February.

Unfortunately, talk like this has also led to the view that she is arrogant, which might explain her bottom three showing on two episodes of the show despite sterling performances.

But she has more than her fair share of admirers who appreciate the flavour she adds to the contest.

The 500,000 residents of Guilford County in North Carolina have officially declared May 6, 2004, Fantasia Barrino Day.

Big lips, a big fan base and big talent. Will these be enough to win her the crown?

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Does that clear up anything?

[Vegas Girl]

She sings in the choir at church, where her mom is the pastor...then becomes a pregnant teen. Boy, that must have been embarrassing for all of them.

Yes, she is talented, I'm not disputing that.

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

Well, I understand what you're saying, I guess, but she's trying to make a new way for herself and I think that it's something to be admired. Just because she had a baby and wasnt married doesnt say anything about her personality, right now that's all in her past, and she's trying to make a better future for herself and for her daughter. I dont see her as cocky at all, from all the video I've seen of her, she really seems like a caring and sensitive person, because she's always crying whenever someone gets voted off, and she cried when she got the 'key to the city'. Not everyone has a perfect past, Im sure Clay has skeletons in his closet. Also, what I admire about Fantasia is how free-spirited and uninhibited she is...she doesnt seem to care what people really think of her...she just performs, does her best and tries to have fun with it, and does so in her own unique way. Diana, no offense, just sounds like another Celine who does 10 second glory notes. But that's jmo.

As for AP English...all I can say is, I'm scared. :eek: But you probably didnt use prep books...I am, so that might help me...

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
Well, I understand what you're saying, I guess, but she's trying to make a new way for herself and I think that it's something to be admired. Just because she had a baby and wasnt married doesnt say anything about her personality, right now that's all in her past, and she's trying to make a better future for herself and for her daughter. I dont see her as cocky at all, from all the video I've seen of her, she really seems like a caring and sensitive person, because she's always crying whenever someone gets voted off, and she cried when she got the 'key to the city'. Not everyone has a perfect past, Im sure Clay has skeletons in his closet. Also, what I admire about Fantasia is how free-spirited and uninhibited she is...she doesnt seem to care what people really think of her...she just performs, does her best and tries to have fun with it, and does so in her own unique way. Diana, no offense, just sounds like another Celine who does 10 second glory notes. But that's jmo.

As for AP English...all I can say is, I'm scared. :eek: But you probably didnt use prep books...I am, so that might help me... Well, Clay touched boobies and wore a giant condom on his head. :lol: Not to mention he ran over his cat -.- (an accident). But yeah lol, I get what youre saying. Im still rooting for Diana, but Fantasia does have talent. I dont endorse her past, but I also dont necessarily frown upon it. People make mistake and life will go on. However I will agree with Jeff on that whole getting a job thing. Its nice that her parents help her financially- shes LUCKY because a lot of parents dont help at all, but she cant rely on them forever. Even getting a small job for a day or two a week would be enough to help her. I understand the term 'idol' too, and IMO Clay is my idol, but 'American Idol' is out to try and find the best popstar- not role model. Yah, that does count somewhat, but it cant count for too much because shes still there. And now Im starting to ramble and am forgetting what Im even writing about.

[-*Leah*-]

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Well, Clay touched boobies and wore a giant condom on his head. :lol: Not to mention he ran over his cat -.- (an accident). But yeah lol, I get what youre saying. Im still rooting for Diana, but Fantasia does have talent. I dont endorse her past, but I also dont necessarily frown upon it. People make mistake and life will go on. However I will agree with Jeff on that whole getting a job thing. Its nice that her parents help her financially- shes LUCKY because a lot of parents dont help at all, but she cant rely on them forever. Even getting a small job for a day or two a week would be enough to help her. I understand the term 'idol' too, and IMO Clay is my idol, but 'American Idol' is out to try and find the best popstar- not role model. Yah, that does count somewhat, but it cant count for too much because shes still there. And now Im starting to ramble and am forgetting what Im even writing about. I saw that pic of Clay holding that woman's boobs. Hilarious!:lol:

[G-Force Glockstar]

Originally posted by -*Leah*-
I saw that pic of Clay holding that woman's boobs. Hilarious!:lol:

I've never seen that picture.
Do you have it?

[JT]

Fantasia isn't wasting her life. She's enriching it. She isn't moping around worrying about why she got pregnant. What's the point of dwelling on the past if it's just going to bring on heartache? She's not thinking "Why did I get pregnant?" she's thinking "What can I do to fix this and make it work?" She isn't going to drop her dreams because she got pregnant, but she's going to use her baby as an incentive for her dreams. She's trying to make it big so that she can support her family and so that she can give Zion a good life.

This is America, damn it, and everything is possible.

[Krisalicious]

Diana really should win this. You know why? If Fantasia already knows for sure that Clive Davis will sign her, what's the point of winning? Diana doesn't already have a record deal. I think that if she loses, she won't be successful. Not sure why, but I just have this reaaaaaaaaally weird feeling. Fantasia though, win or lose, it's kind of a win/win situation for her.

[G-Force Glockstar]

Originally posted by Krisalicious
Diana really should win this. You know why? If Fantasia already knows for sure that Clive Davis will sign her, what's the point of winning? Diana doesn't already have a record deal. I think that if she loses, she won't be successful. Not sure why, but I just have this reaaaaaaaaally weird feeling. Fantasia though, win or lose, it's kind of a win/win situation for her.

That's what I was saying. Diana should win because Fantasia is already getting a record.

So everyone, please vote for Diana!
1-866-43657-01

[G-Force Glockstar]

But how does everyone know Diana will go first, and Fantasia will go second?
Is it because they said that on the results show when Jasmine flipped a quater, and Diana and Fantasia had to guess heads or tails?

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

No one knows if Fantasia will be getting a record deal for sure, and even if she does, that doesnt mean that we shouldnt vote for her because we think she might have a better chance of being successful than Diana...you shouldnt rob Fantasia of the American Idol crown just b/c she has a better chance of having a good career...if Fantasia does better than Diana on Tuesday, then she should be and deserves to be the American Idol.

[-*Leah*-]

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
No one knows if Fantasia will be getting a record deal for sure, and even if she does, that doesnt mean that we shouldnt vote for her because we think she might have a better chance of being successful than Diana...you shouldnt rob Fantasia of the American Idol crown just b/c she has a better chance of having a good career...if Fantasia does better than Diana on Tuesday, then she should be and deserves to be the American Idol. Exactly. You can't rob the person with the talent, and give it to the one that doesn't. (not saying Diana doesn't have talent, Fantasia has been consistent every week, and Diana hasn't)

[David]

Originally posted by FullHouseFan8795
But how does everyone know Diana will go first, and Fantasia will go second?
Is it because they said that on the results show when Jasmine flipped a quater, and Diana and Fantasia had to guess heads or tails? Yup

[Cashodeen]

Originally posted by Krisalicious
Diana really should win this. You know why? If Fantasia already knows for sure that Clive Davis will sign her, what's the point of winning? Diana doesn't already have a record deal. I think that if she loses, she won't be successful. Not sure why, but I just have this reaaaaaaaaally weird feeling. Fantasia though, win or lose, it's kind of a win/win situation for her.

If it takes AI for someone to be successful and they wouldn't make it otherwise, then they don't DESERVE to win. Not saying that's Diana's case, but if she's deserving of a singing career and loses AI, she should get a deal someplace. That's just how I think of it. I don't think she'd get screwed over. She's good. She should make lots of money at this.