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Benny Hill
04-24-2004, 07:20 PM
ok this show is the worst black show ever. the reason why this show didnt win an emmy is because they are not funny. nothing they do is funny. their jokes are lame. the point of the show iis lame. please this show should've been cancelled after the first episode. classic black shows like martiun did win emmy's back in 1992 and 1993. living single also won back 1993. and other classic black shows of the 80s and 70s won emmy's.

isiahthomas
05-05-2004, 10:58 AM
What is Martiun? Learn how to spell. His show was Martin. U are the one that's lame. Steve's show wasn't wack & it wasn't the worst black show ever. I can think of some other black shows that were worst like Cedric's variety show that Fox cancelled.

dlemond
05-05-2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
ok this show is the worst black show ever. the reason why this show didnt win an emmy is because they are not funny. nothing they do is funny. their jokes are lame. the point of the show iis lame. please this show should've been cancelled after the first episode. classic black shows like martiun did win emmy's back in 1992 and 1993. living single also won back 1993. and other classic black shows of the 80s and 70s won emmy's.

You actually think this is the worst "black show" ever?
You call Martin and Living Single "classic"?

Those are decent shows, but you haven't seen enough TV to even give an opinion.

Sanford and Son; Good Times; The Jeffersons; The Cosby Show; these are classics that earned that label.

Steve Harvey isn't the best show but it is nowhere near the worst and you don't have a clue as to what "classic" is.

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 12:32 PM
:talk: There y'all go startin stuff again.:)

These posts are funnier than the shows.

What was the worst black show? None of the above. Depends on your tastes I guess. Steve Harvey's Big Time might be the all time worst one. As for sitcoms maybe either Sanford Arms or Baby I'm Back With Demond Wilson as the deadbeat dad who comes back into wife Denise Nicholas' life just as she's about to marry the guy who played Balderman Davis on Good Times. There may be worse ones than this though. Someone should post a query on the general questions board. I'm not going to because I might get a lot of anti-black posts saying that ALL the black shows sucked.

By the way, Martin and Living Single weren't ever nominated for emmys. The emmy people looked down their noses at these shows. NAACP Image Awards may not have been to keen on Martin either.

tvje
05-05-2004, 12:59 PM
I agree with you guys. "The Steve Harvey show" is not really a classic or groundbreaking, but is not the worst show either.

It is what it is? A show that was funny and people liked. And not every sitcom has to be a classic to be good.

ps: if any Steve Harvey sitcom was groundbreaking, it might be "Me and the Boys". I don't recall any other sitcom about a single black dad, that at the sametime showed black people in a possitive light. I hope one year TV Land airs episodes of "Me and the Boys" as part of black history month celebration.

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 01:22 PM
you know why this the worst black show ever? first of all im a 39 year old white American and my dad was in the kkk of white power. when i saw the black shows in the 70s, me and father were just watching them. we were great classics like sanford and son, whats happening, good times, 227, my dad left the kk because he once respected black comedy, we were laughing like there was no tomorrow. that how great classic black comedy was in 70s to 1994. ok the last show that me and dad couldnt get enough was martin and living single. Martin is amazing, he wont stop till he makes you laugh your brains out. living single is good comedy but those two black shows were the last of all black shows. ok how about this RAP in the 80s was also amazing and awsome to listen to, kool moe dee, many more, it would take years to complete complete great old school rappers. but RAP has died when martin came off the air in 1997. biggy died, tupac died a year later. ok now you got black sitcoms (DEAD 1997)
BLACK RAP(DEAD 1997) you people have nothing else to show us white americans. Steve harvey is the first black show ever to begin being the worst black show ever. and now you garbage black shows thge hugleys, jaimie foxx, big house, girlfriends and the list of new black shows goes on ever since 1997. now all because of this my father is back on the kkk and im well still partially racist because of new black shows starting with steve harvey stupid show. you get my drift you turds.

dlemond
05-05-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
you know why this the worst black show ever? first of all im a 39 year old white American and my dad was in the kkk of white power. when i saw the black shows in the 70s, me and father were just watching them. we were great classics like sanford and son, whats happening, good times, 227, my dad left the kk because he once respected black comedy, we were laughing like there was no tomorrow. that how great classic black comedy was in 70s to 1994. ok the last show that me and dad couldnt get enough was martin and living single. Martin is amazing, he wont stop till he makes you laugh your brains out. living single is good comedy but those two black shows were the last of all black shows. ok how about this RAP in the 80s was also amazing and awsome to listen to, kool moe dee, many more, it would take years to complete complete great old school rappers. but RAP has died when martin came off the air in 1997. biggy died, tupac died a year later. ok now you got black sitcoms (DEAD 1997)
BLACK RAP(DEAD 1997) you people have nothing else to show us white americans. Steve harvey is the first black show ever to begin being the worst black show ever. and now you garbage black shows thge hugleys, jaimie foxx, big house, girlfriends and the list of new black shows goes on ever since 1997. now all because of this my father is back on the kkk and im well still partially racist because of new black shows starting with steve harvey stupid show. you get my drift you turds.

Good to hear about your messed up life and your indefensible position of being a racist.

Hence, your opinion means crap and I assume you will be banned soon.

Tool.

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 03:29 PM
Well the shows may not be as good as those old ones for a number of reasons, but calling people turds is only going to alienate you from the others on the boards, Benny Hill. Blacks, whites and most others would consider that uninformed language, y'know what I'm saying? When you post up other stuff even if it's intelligent, we're going to be thinking there's that racist guy talking. You know?

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 03:55 PM
i am not racist. you have to understand that i am frustrated that they actually put reruns of garbage new shows like these. waste of space on tbs.

isiahthomas
05-05-2004, 04:09 PM
Benny Hill nobody cares about your opinion. U didn't have to tell us your father is a KKK member cause we don't care. How is he gonna be a KKK member but he liked the old black tv shows from the 70's & 80's? If he's a racist, he's always gonna be a racist. People can change though so maybe he isn't a racist anymore. If u think Steve Harvey's show is garbage, how do u think blacks feel about those garbage white tv shows that be gettin their reruns showed? I don't like a lot of white comedy sitcoms cause i can't relate to it. I think NBC, ABC, CBS have too many garbage white comedy sitcoms on right now but i don't complain about it. I just don't watch those shows.

isiahthomas
05-05-2004, 04:12 PM
I didn't know Demond Wilson had a show with Denise Nicholas. I also didn't know Redd Foxx had a show called Sanford Arms. Is that the show where he was living with that fat white dude who took Lamont's place?

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 04:39 PM
Sanford Arms was the spinoff from Sanford and Son that tried to keep it going without either Fred or Lamont. It ran for a month in the fall of 1977. Sanford was the show with Fred and the heavyset white guy, Cal. It was OK from what little I remember of it.

Baby I'm Back was the show Demond Wilson left S&S to go into. He wasn't a good leading man (he struck me as having a severe drug dependency) and Ms Nicholas who is a decent actress was really out of her element in this show about a deadbeat dad. A young Kim Fields was their daughter and Helen Martin from 227 was Denise's mother who hated Demond's character.

There probably is a black sitcom that was worse than these but this is the worst one that I can think of off the top of my head.

I vaguely remember some show about convicts called On the Rocks or something like that. That sounded pretty stupid. I'll have to look it up on imdb or tvtome.

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 04:40 PM
you are right , white showsbhave also been garbage since 1997 along with garbage black shows. i think will and smelly grace is top 10 worst shows of all time. but both black and white comedies have been great back in the old days. ok black shows began in the late 60s. ever since then black and white shows were equal and laughter and also they were special. Sitcoms began in the mid 40s. white sitcoms were perfect then and so hilarious you jus had to die laugh. black shows only for black audiences back in the 50s began with amos n andy which was hilarious. julia, the first black show starting in 1969 was also very good. white viewers and black viewers both loved watching black sitcoms like jeffersons, good time, sanford and son, i mean the list goes on in the 70s. everysinge black and white show was good good in the 70s and 80s to 1994. you dont have anymore great shows. not only that that they put reruns of new black shows and new white shows which frustrates me and i dont like that. they have millions of great classics from the 40s to 1994 to show on channels like TBS mostly, nick at night, tnt, channel usa and many other useless channels yet they waste their time putting garbage new shows to irritate everyone.
thank you

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 04:59 PM
Political correctness and economics have a lot to do with Tv changing so much. Now the networks won't air anything that any group might consider offensive of their race, sexuality or socioethnic group. You could never do All in the Family today. So many people are so pissed off and feel disenfranchised and disrespected that they have gravitated towards others who are equally pissed off and said that they will not put up with anyone urinating on them ever again. So popular entertainment can only fall back on sex humor and materialistic characters and recycling the same sort of safe inoffensive material that is stale.

Money plays a big part too. The networks want us to buy all the stuff they advertise in the commercials and there are so many channels now that people can switch off that they really don't want to offend anyone. Also they cater more to the people who spend the most money on the products which are people who live in the big cities.

I'd like to know how that Neilsen ratings thing works. I've never met anyone who has one of those boxes in their home, or whatever system they use to determine which show is watched by which people. It could be very arbitrary.

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 05:36 PM
all in the family is coming on tv land.

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 07:07 PM
There is no way in the world that any network outside of Premium cable is going to launch a new comedy with a lead who is as politically incorrect as Archie Bunker and George Jefferson were at the outset. Curb Your Enthusiasm on HBO is innovative to a point in that Larry David is a real A** in that show and he's parodying himself and there's no script per se. I haven't heard of any Jewish groups protesting because he plays this type of character who would make Jews look really bad if you take him seriously and as being representative of Jews in general.

I think with blacks on TV, there has been an oversensitivity because of the slavery holocaust and all the anti-black racism in this country that has made blacks supersensitive to any portrayal of them on TV in a light that could be considered offensive or stereotypical or unrealistic. I enjoyed reading this book called Primetime Blues, but the author found racial stereotypes or faults with virtually every black show to the point that I was looking at the shows to find faults. There were shows like Julia that some blacks said was whitewashed because Diahann Carroll lived in a middle class villa, had white friends and spoke standard enunciated English. Then on the other hand people attacked Good Times for being about poor people and because JJ was a coon type character with a s**t-eatin grin. People attack Girlfriends because they say the women are all slim with long hair, yet others diss Florida from Good Times as being frog looking and ugly and Mo'Nique from The Parkers as being fat and aggressive. It's too much.

I think that the passage of time has allowed for more of a broader representation of blacks. Not all blacks live, think, look or act alike. There has been an evolution in that regard. But there has been such a premium placed on being groundbreaking that TV and I think entertainment culture in general has fallen into a whole where people have been kind of conditioned to expect something new and different and when it doesn't come along we get frustrated.

i don't think a show has to be groundbreaking and innovative to be good entertainment. I'd rather watch something uplifting that is mildly amusing, than be shocked and titillated by something innovative and extreme.

In this regard, I can accept something like Eve, which has its problems, but does in a way reflect a contemporary culture of young adults in an urban environment and if I adjust my attitude it is entertaining to me. It's either that or I remain stuck in the past watching reruns over and over.

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 08:05 PM
jamesanthony you must be out of your mind. Eve is a pointless
show, thats why they cancelled that extreme garbage. all in the family taught you lessons in life. this show ran from 1971 to 1979 and jeffersons ran from 1974 to 1984. dont even mention eve, that smelly turd , please ok. all in the family, archie bunker was a racist but it was a show about real situations. their are sad moments and happy monents. archie bunker and george jefferson are a class act and are very alike. archie bunker. so many black viewers for all in the family, it was sky rocketting on the charts next to jeffersons. thats why you see all in the family on tv land everyday from 11pm to 12 am. just look it up on the tv guide.

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 08:09 PM
good times was an instant class in 1974 to 1978, it spun in the neilson rating at #5 , second season #9. everyone loved this great classic. i dont dont it hard to believe people spitting steve harvey, girlfiriend, parkers, hugleys, big house, my wife and kids and more new black shows

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 08:25 PM
:rotflmao: @ I must be out of my mind. That joke is funnier than the shows on TV.

Well since we're not TV execs and have no network, the choices are to watch reruns or turn off the Tv. I get tired of watching the reruns over and over. I must admit I watch much less tv though. i actually spend much more time posting stuff up here on these boards than watching anything on the TV.

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 09:07 PM
all i have to say is everything now is garbage , that why i never watch television. i work with t.v editors and i also
whats a classic and whats garbage sunny boy. its much safer not watching t.v now adays for those who cant afford cable, dish or direct tv. because they are in deep depression and also committing suicide because of garbage new shows. i hope the meteor kills us all because ENTERTAINMENT IS DEAD.

jamesanthony
05-05-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
all i have to say is everything now is garbage , that why i never watch television. i work with t.v editors and i also
whats a classic and whats garbage sunny boy. its much safer not watching t.v now adays for those who cant afford cable, dish or direct tv. because they are in deep depression and also committing suicide because of garbage new shows. i hope the meteor kills us all because ENTERTAINMENT IS DEAD.

I guess i have to go back to reading books now. Darn!

I've heard that the people who program the networks don't even watch the shows they foist on the general population. They just look at what tests well and put it on and couldn't care less.

I like to plug in the old set every once in a while and get a good laugh so I'll still watch. And when I visit some folks homes the TV is more entertaining than they are.:lol:

Benny Hill
05-05-2004, 10:20 PM
bump:: cant reply anymore.

Da_Diva001
05-20-2004, 01:04 PM
I love Steve Harvey. It would be rather corny sometimes but I thought that Steve and the supporting cast did a good job.IF you want to know the worst black show ever....Homeboys in Outer Space starring Flex and Daryl Bell from A Different World. Now that show was crap!!!

jamesanthony
05-20-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Da_Diva001
I love Steve Harvey. It would be rather corny sometimes but I thought that Steve and the supporting cast did a good job.IF you want to know the worst black show ever....Homeboys in Outer Space starring Flex and Daryl Bell from A Different World. Now that show was crap!!!

I never saw that show so I'm being objective in holding back from commenting on it. I don't think Flex is a good performer (I think One on One is a lame show). I think My Wife and Kids is one of the worst. The Hughelys is borderline terrible too. But there is probably some black show I have overlooked that is much worse than any of these.

The guy from Boston Public was in a UPN sitcom aabout slavery and the Civil War that critics said was unPC but I never saw it so I can't say if it was the worst.

I don't go to the theater, but there is a Broadway play running now with African American actor Andre DeShields playing an HIV+ gorilla who has intercourse with humans. To me that is abysmal. I can't think of any tv series that is as awful as that , but in time something will come to me.

isiahthomas
05-20-2004, 02:22 PM
LOL@Homeboys In Outer Space hahahahahahahahahahaha. That show was horrible. I only saw a few episodes. I can't believe Paulette Braxton who played Veronica on The Parkers wasted her time with that show.

Benny Hill
05-20-2004, 02:36 PM
a different world is a classic, da diva (you b....). i became a white racist after watching steve harvey show's(first ever worst black show ever) first episode. that tells you, steve harvey should be shot in the mouth for even thinking he was funny. da diva, you should go burn in hell with steve harvey. thank you. just seeing steve harvey's face, cedrics ugly face, hugley's irritates me.

black shows from the 70s and 80s to 1996 were good.........
i told you people many times.

now i am a white racist again. blame on steve harvey the idiot.

isiahthomas
05-20-2004, 03:16 PM
LOL@u said Steve Harvey should be shot in the mouth & Cedric is ugly hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. U are wrong. How are u gonna blame Steve Harvey for the reason you're a racist? That's a lame excuse & since you're a racist, nobody cares. U should keep that to yourself. It's people like u that make the world messed up like it is. U probably a redneck country boy from down south aren't u who's lived in a area where there's dirt roads? LOL.

Benny Hill
05-20-2004, 03:36 PM
yes i am white and i live in dallas, tx.
i love the old classic black shows ok from the 70s and 80s and i also like watching the early 90s black shows like martin and living single, hanging with mr cooper, fresh prince, they are considered great performers in those classic shows along with the old classic white shows from the 40s,50s,60s,70s,80s,to 1994. will and grace is the beginning of the worst show of all time. will and grace and steve harvey show are garbage equally. dharma and gay is also a horrible show along with girlfriends( another bad show. now i said i became a racist because those black shows are gone, makes me sad but then garbage comes out of the worst year in american histoy of entertainment (1998)
STEVE HARVEY SHOW, I PUKED WHEN I SAW THE FIRst episode. it was garbage. ok. what is so funny about it. they have to curse during stand up to be amusing. is that comedy? thats lame. steve harvey show is totally lame and total garbage. ok isiahthomas. depressing to see that t..v sitcoms are dead and no more. goodbye to those classics we used to watch and love.

Da_Diva001
05-20-2004, 09:15 PM
BENNY HILL , YOUR COMMENT WAS UNCALLED FOR AND UNNECESSARY, AND YOU WANT TO CALL SOME ONE A (B***H), I MAYBE BUT THIS B***H would kick your A** IF YOU EVER STEPPED ONE FOOT IN DETROIT, YOU WHITE MOTHERF**KA!

isiahthomas
05-21-2004, 10:28 AM
U know Benny Hill ain't that stupid to walk in a black neighborhood in Detroit hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Benny Hill
05-21-2004, 11:29 AM
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felicitylen
05-22-2004, 04:15 PM
The Steve Harvey Show was not the worst black show ever. I guess you really haven't been watching tv much. I thought it was a moderate show. It had its funny moments. I just can't see how this show turned you into a racist.

Da_Diva001
05-23-2004, 01:00 AM
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PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:36 AM
You're a HYPOCRITICAL RACIST. If you hate blacks so much, why are you posting on this board? HYPOCRITE!

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
come here to texas da diva and we will
slice you in half.

Talking smack, are we?

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
ok this show is the worst black show ever. the reason why this show didnt win an emmy is because they are not funny. nothing they do is funny. their jokes are lame. the point of the show iis lame. please this show should've been cancelled after the first episode. classic black shows like martiun did win emmy's back in 1992 and 1993. living single also won back 1993. and other classic black shows of the 80s and 70s won emmy's.

I have news for you, you're lame!

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
you know why this the worst black show ever? first of all im a 39 year old white American and my dad was in the kkk of white power. when i saw the black shows in the 70s, me and father were just watching them. we were great classics like sanford and son, whats happening, good times, 227, my dad left the kk because he once respected black comedy, we were laughing like there was no tomorrow. that how great classic black comedy was in 70s to 1994. ok the last show that me and dad couldnt get enough was martin and living single. Martin is amazing, he wont stop till he makes you laugh your brains out. living single is good comedy but those two black shows were the last of all black shows. ok how about this RAP in the 80s was also amazing and awsome to listen to, kool moe dee, many more, it would take years to complete complete great old school rappers. but RAP has died when martin came off the air in 1997. biggy died, tupac died a year later. ok now you got black sitcoms (DEAD 1997)
BLACK RAP(DEAD 1997) you people have nothing else to show us white americans. Steve harvey is the first black show ever to begin being the worst black show ever. and now you garbage black shows thge hugleys, jaimie foxx, big house, girlfriends and the list of new black shows goes on ever since 1997. now all because of this my father is back on the kkk and im well still partially racist because of new black shows starting with steve harvey stupid show. you get my drift you turds.

blah blah blah blah blah BLAH!!!!!! Shut up. Racist asshole. You already earned an one-way pass to Hell ages ago. Now get there and STAY there.

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
i am not racist. you have to understand that i am frustrated that they actually put reruns of garbage new shows like these. waste of space on tbs.

Yes you are. You hate blacks. End of story.

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
all i have to say is everything now is garbage , that why i never watch television. i work with t.v editors and i also
whats a classic and whats garbage sunny boy. its much safer not watching t.v now adays for those who cant afford cable, dish or direct tv. because they are in deep depression and also committing suicide because of garbage new shows. i hope the meteor kills us all because ENTERTAINMENT IS DEAD.

YOu're contradicting yourself so much, it's not even funny.

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
a different world is a classic, da diva (you b....). i became a white racist after watching steve harvey show's(first ever worst black show ever) first episode. that tells you, steve harvey should be shot in the mouth for even thinking he was funny. da diva, you should go burn in hell with steve harvey. thank you. just seeing steve harvey's face, cedrics ugly face, hugley's irritates me.

black shows from the 70s and 80s to 1996 were good.........
i told you people many times.

now i am a white racist again. blame on steve harvey the idiot.

YOUR face irritates me. Please go shoot yourself in the mouth.

PZelda
05-29-2004, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
yes i am white and i live in dallas, tx.
i love the old classic black shows ok from the 70s and 80s and i also like watching the early 90s black shows like martin and living single, hanging with mr cooper, fresh prince, they are considered great performers in those classic shows along with the old classic white shows from the 40s,50s,60s,70s,80s,to 1994. will and grace is the beginning of the worst show of all time. will and grace and steve harvey show are garbage equally. dharma and gay is also a horrible show along with girlfriends( another bad show. now i said i became a racist because those black shows are gone, makes me sad but then garbage comes out of the worst year in american histoy of entertainment (1998)
STEVE HARVEY SHOW, I PUKED WHEN I SAW THE FIRst episode. it was garbage. ok. what is so funny about it. they have to curse during stand up to be amusing. is that comedy? thats lame. steve harvey show is totally lame and total garbage. ok isiahthomas. depressing to see that t..v sitcoms are dead and no more. goodbye to those classics we used to watch and love.

That post made ABSOLUTELY no sense at all. Please go back to first grade and learn how to use PROPER grammar.

dandelion wine
05-29-2004, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Benny Hill
come here to texas da diva and we will
slice you in half.

This comment right here takes the cake.. listen to Miss Vicki: You might actually learn a thing or two.