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Janice
03-02-2004, 02:33 AM
Can you name celebrities, in any field, who never achieved the fame of their superstar relatives.

Alec Baldwin - Choose any brother. None made it as far as Alec.

Brian Doyle-Murray - I'm a fan, but brother Bill is more famous.

Barbra Streisand's sister, Rosalyn Kind, is very talented, but not a household name.

Jeff Bridges made it bigger in films than brother Beau Bridges.

Brian Damage
03-02-2004, 10:36 AM
Eric Roberts-Julia's brother
Jim Hanks-Tom's brother
Frank Stallone-Sylvester's brother

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Janice
Brian Doyle-Murray - I'm a fan, but brother Bill is more famous.

one thing I've noticed is that the older Bill has gotten, the more and more him and Brian look alike. When Bill was younger and I heard Brian was his brother, I didn't see the resemblence

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 02:11 PM
while both "other" brothers have done reasonably well, I think both Chris and Michael Penn (who had a hit single in the early 90's and continues to perform) will always be in Sean Penn's shadow

Brian Damage
03-02-2004, 02:14 PM
Casey Affleck- Ben's brother

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 02:35 PM
Linda Lopez is nowhere as famous as Jennifer, but her boyfriend (E.T.'s Chris Booker) is a lot cuter than any of J. Lo's guys besides Cris Judd

dlemond
03-02-2004, 02:45 PM
Ron Howard - brother Clint Howard

Rob Lowe - brother Chad Lowe

John Travolta - sister Ellen Travolta

John Cusack - sisters Joan (though she was nomintated for 2 Academy Awards she is still always is overshadowed by John) and Ann

Kate Hudson - brother Oliver Hudson

Eddie Murphy - brother Charles Q. Murphy

Matt Dillon - brother Kevin Dillon

Penny Lane
03-02-2004, 03:01 PM
Liza Minelli- Lorna Luft
Frank Sinatra- Frank Sinatra Jr.
Lucille Ball-Lucie Arnaz
Natalie Wood- Lana Wood

Here are some that were as or more successful than their relatives;
Marlo Thomas- Danny Thomas
Melanie Griffith- Tippi Hedren
Michael Douglas- Kirk Douglas
Ashley Judd-Wynonna Judd
Laura Dern- Diane Ladd
Kate Hudson- Goldie Hawn

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Penny Lane
Here are some that were as or more successful than their relatives;
Kate Hudson- Goldie Hawn

while I think Kate has done fine so far, she has awhile to go before she really catches up with her mom IMO.

crystals
03-02-2004, 03:40 PM
Julian Lennon- son of John Lennon

I don't know how well known Julian is compared to his late father and former beatle John Lennon, but that's another one.

Also the late singer Selena Quintanilla and her father former Los Dinos singer Abraham Quintanilla.

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 04:12 PM
Julian Lennon went through a phase around 1985 where he was fairly popular, but it started going downhill with his second album in 1986, John was still bigger regardless.

Tho I'd say Julian's done a lot better than Sean Lennon did when he released an album. A shame because people were "he's Yoko Ono's son too". I am in a minority but I actually like Yoko and always wanted to hear Sean's cd to hear how the two of them mixed together would sound like

Janice
03-02-2004, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Penny Lane
Marlo Thomas- Danny Thomas
Michael Douglas- Kirk Douglas
Kate Hudson- Goldie Hawn
I have to respectfully disagree with these.

I don't think Goldie has been overshadowed by her daughter at all.

Marlo and her dad Danny...tough call, but he was very famous in his day.

Kirk and Michael...I guess to a degree. Michael has the Oscars, and he got into directing, yet Kirk Douglas was a megastar back in the day.

:)

Janice
03-02-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
while both "other" brothers have done reasonably well, I think both Chris and Michael Penn (who had a hit single in the early 90's and continues to perform) will always be in Sean Penn's shadow
Most definitely. I like Chris a lot, but I've never even heard of Michael Penn.

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Janice
Most definitely. I like Chris a lot, but I've never even heard of Michael Penn.

Michael's a singer-songwriter. He had a really big hit in the early 90's called No Myth ("what if I was Romeo in black jeans"). He was more coffeehouse rock, he's married to Aimee Mann (formerly of Til Tuesday and now a respecting solo artist in her own right), but No Myth is the only success he had on the pop charts.

EricIdlefan
03-02-2004, 06:32 PM
Patrick Swayze - Don Swayze brother

Ridley Scott - Tony Scott brothers Tony delivers the money while Ridley is more acclaimed and gets the awards

Ralph Fiennes - Joseph Fiennes Ralph has the looks but Joseph is much more nicer in interviews

Charlie Sheen - Emilio Estevaz

Kevin Bacon - Michael Bacon brothers Micheal is a musician while Kevin is the star of the family

Penny Lane
03-02-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
while I think Kate has done fine so far, she has awhile to go before she really catches up with her mom IMO.


So true! But she's doing ok so far.
:)

consentida
03-02-2004, 07:35 PM
Bonnie Bedelia, Kieran Culkin and Rory Culkin have definately been overshadowed by Macaulay Culkin. However, Kieran and Rory are becoming more popular now.

Brian Damage
03-02-2004, 07:58 PM
I would say Patricia and Rosanna Arquette are more famous than brother David but then again none of them are really anything to sing home about.

Penny Lane
03-02-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by consentida
Bonnie Bedelia, Kieran Culkin and Rory Culkin have definately been overshadowed by Macaulay Culkin. However, Kieran and Rory are becoming more popular now.

Bonnie Bedelia? I don't get it.:confused:

consentida
03-02-2004, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Penny Lane
Bonnie Bedelia? I don't get it.:confused:


Bonnie Bedelia is Macaulay Culkin's (and the rest of the Culkin Kids) aunt. :)

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by EricIdlefan
Charlie Sheen - Emilio Estevaz

Charlie is more famous than Emilio, but I wouldn't say Emilio's in his shadow. EE was a huge star in the mid-late 80's and early 90's, but after he got married (first to Paula Abdul, then the second time to someone else), he basically abandoned Hollywood and started embracing indie cinema instead. So it is kind of his own fault why Charlie is more famous

Dean Winchester
03-02-2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
I would say Patricia and Rosanna Arquette are more famous than brother David but then again none of them are really anything to sing home about.

true, all 4 Arquette (Alexis also) siblings have had reasonable success, but none of them have really been a breakout. David is probably most famous for being Mr. Courteney Cox, Rosanna is best known for being in a movie with Madonna (in which Madonna got all the attention for), and I don't really remember what Patricia has done.

Janice
03-03-2004, 12:19 AM
Dennis Quaid is more famous than his brother Randy Quaid.

Going back, Jack Cassidy was a good actor, but he never achieved major film stardom. His son, David Cassidy, became a huge teen pop sensation. I've often read that Jack had a difficult time with his son's fame and that was he was jealous of his son's success.

Dean Winchester
03-03-2004, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Janice
Dennis Quaid is more famous than his brother Randy Quaid.

Going back, Jack Cassidy was a good actor, but he never achieved major film stardom. His son, David Cassidy, became a huge teen pop sensation. I've often read that Jack had a difficult time with his son's fame and that was he was jealous of his son's success.

I heard about that, you would think that a parent would be happy that their child made it so well. Kind of selfish of a parent to react like that to your sons success

Dean Winchester
03-06-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Jen1989
What about Justine and Jason Bateman? Brother and sister. Both are in acting. I would say Justine overshadows Jason, but I could be wrong. She's most famous of course for her role as Mallory Keaton on Family Ties. Jason was on Little House on the Prairie.

What do you think?

actually, I would say it's the opposite. Justine for the most part, is regarded as a hasbeen 80's tv star, whereas Jason has recently experienced a career renaissance as the lead on Fox's Arrested Development. I think Jason's career is doing a lot better than Justine's.

Janice
03-06-2004, 01:37 AM
Speaking of Family Ties, Meredith Baxter-Birney made a bigger splash as an actress than her mother, Whitney Blake. She starred on the sitcom, Hazel.

Also on Family Ties, Michael Gross went further than his sister, Mary Gross, in my opinion.

EricIdlefan
03-06-2004, 06:18 AM
Susan Sarandon made it more big than ex-spouse Chris who has been in mainly B-movies
Julia Roberts has overshawdowed her estranged brother Eric by a whopping 1,000%!!
Priscillia Presley was big on Dallas in the 1980's now her daughter Lisa Marie is getting bigger thanks to her now ex-hubbys Nicolas Cage and Michael Jackson

webuster
03-06-2004, 03:06 PM
Dick Van Dyke- Jerry Van Dyke.

Ellen DeGeneres has a brother Vance, who does some acting.

phoebe7165
03-09-2004, 03:39 PM
Jen1989 mentioned Little House on the Prairie and I thought of the Gilberts--Melissa, Sara,& Jonathan. Although Sara wasn't on Little House, she is Melissa's half sister. I'm not sure who's the more successful sister is though. Little House was pretty popular and on for a number of years, but so was Roseanne. Both sisters are still acting. Jonathan played Willie Oleson on Little House, but I can't think of anything he's done in a long time.

Janice
03-09-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by phoebe7165
Jen1989 mentioned Little House on the Prairie and I thought of the Gilberts--Melissa, Sara,& Jonathan. Although Sara wasn't on Little House, she is Melissa's half sister. I'm not sure who's the more successful sister is though. Little House was pretty popular and on for a number of years, but so was Roseanne. Both sisters are still acting. Jonathan played Willie Oleson on Little House, but I can't think of anything he's done in a long time.
I think that Melissa Gilbert is the most successful Gilbert.

catlover79
12-12-2009, 12:23 AM
Bonnie Bedelia? I don't get it.:confused:
Bonnie's full birth name is Bonnie Bedelia Culkin (she's the sister of the Culkin kids' dad).

catlover79
12-12-2009, 12:26 AM
Although Robert Montgomery was a talented actor in many films, a TV anthology host and one-time president of SAG, in later years he was way overshadowed by the success of his daughter Elizabeth. Still today, she is the household name out of the two of them.

70s show watcher
12-12-2009, 06:51 PM
Casey Affleck- Ben's brotherive always liked casey better than ben

70s show watcher
12-12-2009, 06:53 PM
true, all 4 Arquette (Alexis also) siblings have had reasonable success, but none of them have really been a breakout. David is probably most famous for being Mr. Courteney Cox, Rosanna is best known for being in a movie with Madonna (in which Madonna got all the attention for), and I don't really remember what Patricia has done. she stars in medium on cbs

Zoneboy
12-12-2009, 07:14 PM
The Van Patten Family:

I've always thought of Dick Van Patten as the more successful although his sister, Joyce, is a very good actress in her own right as is her daughter, Talia Balsam. Dick's son, Vincent and brother, Timothy, have had some moderate acting success but nothing like the rest of the family.

Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest:

I don't think I would put one brother over the other in terms of success. Dana made a name for himself in movies while Steve did so in tv.

Liza
12-12-2009, 07:51 PM
Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest:

I don't think I would put one brother over the other in terms of success. Dana made a name for himself in movies while Steve did so in tv.

Dana was HUGE in the 40s - he was the George Clooney of his day, so although Steve Forrest is well known, I'd put Dana on top.

Of course, I may be just a little biased... *glances at avatar*

Liza
12-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Walter Huston was totally overshadowed by his son, John, and granddaughter, Anjelica.

Robert, Bruce, and Keith Carradine were never as big as David (or their dad for that matter).

I don't know how big James Broderick was, but I don't he was as famous as his son, Matthew.

Sophie Thompson has never been anywhere near as famous as Emma Thompson.

Catherine Deneuve became much more famous than her elder sister, Francoise Dorleac. (She died in a car crash when she was only 25).


But some relatives that did achieve comparable success:

Joan Bennett and Constance Bennett
Lilian Gish and Dorothy Gish
Olivia deHavilland and Joan Fontaine
Tatum O'Neal and Ryan O'Neal
Ethel, Lionel, John, and Drew Barrymore
Donny and Marie Osmond

catlover79
12-12-2009, 08:10 PM
James Broderick was a pretty well-known actor in his day (best known as the father in the 1976-80 ABC drama Family) but I don't think he was nearly as huge or the household name that his son Matthew became. Speaking of Steve Forrest, wasn't he in Mommie Dearest?

Richard Carpenter was always overshadowed by his sister, Karen, in the music world. Also in the world of music, none of the Jackson siblings became anywhere near the success that Michael and Janet became. The only one who really had other consistent chart success for a while was Jermaine.

Another sibling pair who had comparable success: James Arness and Peter Graves.

Liza
12-13-2009, 09:55 AM
Speaking of Steve Forrest, wasn't he in Mommie Dearest?


He sure was. Here's your useless trivia: Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest were the only siblings to both star in episodes of The Twilight Zone, and their episodes aired back-to-back.

153927

Zoneboy
12-13-2009, 12:32 PM
Here's your useless trivia: Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest were the only siblings to both star in episodes of The Twilight Zone, and their episodes aired back-to-back.

Any trivia concerning The Twilight Zone isn't useless. You're right about the fact that their episodes aired back to back but they were not the only siblings to star on the show.

catlover79
12-13-2009, 02:39 PM
He sure was. Here's your useless trivia: Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest were the only siblings to both star in episodes of The Twilight Zone, and their episodes aired back-to-back.

153927
Thank you! :cool:

catlover79
12-13-2009, 02:42 PM
Any trivia concerning The Twilight Zone isn't useless. You're right about the fact that their episodes aired back to back but they were not the only siblings to star on the show.
Who were other siblings that appeared on TZ?

Zoneboy
12-13-2009, 03:27 PM
Who were other siblings that appeared on TZ?

Luther and Jay Adler

Jay, Kim and Pat Hector (Brothers)

There may be others but these 2 come to mind.

Technically speaking though, Liza was right. Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest were the only siblings to have lead roles on the show. Luther Adler was the lead in "The Man in the Bottle" and his brother, Jay, Had supporting roles in 2 episodes

The Hector brothers were child actors all had supporting roles in their episodes

catlover79
12-13-2009, 03:29 PM
Luther and Jay Adler

Jay, Kim and Pat Hector (Brothers)

There may be other but these 2 come to mind.

Technically speaking though, Liza was right. Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest were the only siblings to have lead roles on the show. Luther Adler was the lead in "The Man in the Bottle" and his brother, Jay, Had supporting roles in 2 episodes

The Hector brothers were child actors all had supporting roles in their episodes
Cool - thanks for clearing that up, Charles. :cool:

Liza
12-14-2009, 06:38 PM
Technically speaking though, Liza was right. Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest were the only siblings to have lead roles on the show. Luther Adler was the lead in "The Man in the Bottle" and his brother, Jay, Had supporting roles in 2 episodes

Thank you, I'm such a TZ junkie, I made sure to put the word star in there. They both had top billing.

And Monika, don't forget that both Liz Montgomery & Dick York appeared on that show :)

catlover79
12-14-2009, 08:53 PM
Thank you, I'm such a TZ junkie, I made sure to put the word star in there. They both had top billing.

And Monika, don't forget that both Liz Montgomery & Dick York appeared on that show :)
They did indeed - Dick York appeared in two different eps!! Other Bewitched actors to appear on TZ were Agnes Moorehead, David White and Sandra Gould. :cool: :D

JamesG
12-15-2009, 02:36 AM
Brett Harrelson did not achieve the same level of stardom as his brother Woody Harrelson did.

They appeared together in The People vs. Larry Flynt and The Sunchaser.


In wrestling Lanny Poffo never was as successful as his brother Randall Poffo (stage name 'Macho Man Randy Savage').

Zoneboy
12-15-2009, 02:53 AM
They did indeed - Dick York appeared in two different eps!! Other Bewitched actors to appear on TZ were Agnes Moorehead, David White and Sandra Gould. :cool: :D

Also: Alice Pearce, Roy Roberts, Robert F. Simon and Dick Wilson.

Incidentally, Robert F. Simon was in "No Time Like the past" with Dana Andrews.

Zoneboy
12-15-2009, 03:02 AM
In wrestling Lanny Poffo never was as successful as his brother Randall Poffo (stage name 'Macho Man Randy Savage').


To that list you can add:

Sam Houston, Brother of Jake "The Snake" Roberts

Victor Steamboat, Brother of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat

Gary Royal, Brother of Greg "The Hammer" Valentine etc...

Zoneboy
12-15-2009, 03:08 AM
John Mitchum who was a very good actor was completely overshadowed by his more well known brother, Robert.

Billy Ripken's MLB career never took off the way his brother Cal's did. In fact, Billy's biggest claim to fame is having the expletive **** face on the end of his bat on his 1989 Fleer rookie card. This caused a riot when the packs were first released and collector's were scrambling to get their hands on one of the cards before Fleer corrected it with the second printing which is what they did.

JamesG
12-15-2009, 03:09 AM
To that list you can add:

Sam Houston, Brother of Jake "The Snake" Roberts

Victor Steamboat, Brother of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat

Gary Royal, Brother of Greg "The Hammer" Valentine etc...

also Bruno Sammartino's son David.

JamesG
12-15-2009, 09:16 PM
- Jerry O'Connell is more well-known than his brother Charlie O'Connell


- Mark Wahlberg is more successful in the movies over his brother Donnie Wahlberg.


- Bruce Lee's son Brandon lived in the shadow of his deceased father his whole life when, as he was growing up, people were expecting him to be "the next Bruce Lee".

The daughter, Shannon Lee, has appeared in bit parts in tv shows and martial art B-movies. She is the current president of The Bruce Lee Foundation.